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Peak Oil Solutions: Is Simpler Better?
Public Policy; Political and Legal NewsIs complexity bad for us? Is simpler better?

Joseph Tainter first posited in his book, "The Collapse of Complex Societies," that complex societies most frequently attempt to solve their problems by increasing their complexity. This usually requires the input of additional energy from people or fuel sources or both. This strategy may be a good one when returns from complexity are high. But, such a strategy may also subject a society to collapse. Returns tend to diminish as complexity increases. Ultimately, returns go negative. In short, more complexity isn't necessarily better.

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Re: Peak Oil Solutions: Is Simpler Better? (Score: 1)
by lutherquick on Monday, May 30 @ 19:29:21 PDT
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Complex or chaos?

 

Many times in society you see something and say WOW, that must be advanced, because I can't understand it.

But the truth is that so much has been a massive integration of "systems of systems", evolving to the point that no one person can understand it.  Over time these complex systems because chaos.  But still people look at such messes and stand in awe.  Just like the Iraq war, and just like Peak oil, it's all so simple, only logical people can understand, stupid people demand there are still WMD in Iraq, Saddam did 9/11, and peak oil is a fairy tale.

 

Complex or chaos, it depends who is analyzing it, stupid (US gov) or smart people (Peak oil believers).  Yes, simper is better.



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