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The $10,000 Question
Consumption; Demand; PricesGuest writes "

I don't share Matthew Simmons's angst, but I admire his style. He is that rare doomsayer who puts his money where his doom is. After reading his prediction, quoted Sunday in the cover story of The New York Times Magazine, that oil prices will soar into the triple digits, I called to ask if he'd back his prophecy with cash. Without a second's hesitation, he agreed to bet me $5,000. . . .

I didn't try to argue with him about Saudi Arabia, because I know next to nothing about oil production there or anywhere else. I'm just following the advice of a mentor and friend, the economist Julian Simon: if you find anyone willing to bet that natural resource prices are going up, take him for all you can. . . .



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Posted on Monday, August 22 @ 21:51:54 PDT by Carrie
 
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Re: The $10,000 Question (Score: 1)
by cynthia on Monday, August 22 @ 23:40:29 PDT
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When the famous bet was settled 10 years later, the value of the metals had declined by more than half. As usual, people had found new ways to get the metals as well as cheaper substitutes, like the fiber optic cables that replaced copper telephone wires.

Yeah, cheap oil made fibre optics happen. Does that translate in present day oil reality?



Re: The $10,000 Question (Score: 1)
by MicroHydro on Tuesday, August 23 @ 00:25:15 PDT
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1) Consider $5000 is chump change for these guys


2) If one is an oil bull, you can get a much better ROI by buying oil futures.  Even without using leverage, the money would triple rather than double.  With leverage, one could get more than tenfold profits (as long as one wasn't wiped out by margin calls during intermediate dips).


3) There is no liquidity to this bet, you have to wait to 2011 to collect.  In the real NYMEX market, I could sell my 2010 futures for a nice profit tomorrow.