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Everybody get that?

The EROEI is not important because "this fuel is being made first and the remainder fed to animals".

Well that certainly clears things up...

Well?

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I can see how people might get frustrated by your approach.

Let's do a calculation where all energy inputs are excluded.

We can then claim an almost infinite percent efficiency.

I get a p ...

I asked Lorenzo what discredited Pimental and you merely repeated statements from the "Ethanol Across America" piece you have been referencing. That piece is a lobbying effort of "Ethanol Across A ...

So when you say 634%, what you really mean is 34% then yes?

Yes, a 34% gain overall and a 634% gain looking only at the liquid aspects involved.

And so we are going to replace our current t ...

Lorenzo, what is the basis for this claim? Do you have references? Tnx

pete

I posted this earlier and will help answer your question............

So did this:

for every
Btu dedicated to producing ethanol there is a 34-
percent energy gain.

Yes, the “net” energy gain of 1.34 includes the use of electricity used for drying/processing ...

July 18, 2005 = Really big news! A biomass refinery producing liquid fuels, steam, electricity, high-value biologically based chemicals and other products using renewable forest-based resources!

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>As far as the 1.34 number, meaning a 34% positive energy gain …………. >how about this one instead ………….. for every 1 Btu of liquid fuel used to >produce Ethanol, there is a 6.34 Btu output.
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As far as the 1.34 number, meaning a 34% positive energy gain …………. how about this one instead ………….. for every 1 Btu of liquid fuel used to produce Ethanol, there is a 6.34 Btu output.

Isn't that ...

We will completely replace fossil oil long before we run out …… I voted: No

I put in 1 energy unit & get back 1.34?

pffft... I crap bigger than that...

Also noticed that the references from your source were all studies and papers from the "flawed" 80's & 90' ...

ALBANY, N.Y. - Farmers, businesses and state officials are investing millions of dollars in ethanol and biofuel plants as renewable energy sources, but a new study says the alternative fuels burn more ...

I wonder where the capacity for all these electric things are going to come from.

Projected demand, based on business as usual, shows a severe natural gas deficit by 2010. Coal power plants cost m ...

I think you're spot on, Enquest.

The air car does not need a middle-man technology that can be controlled by big corporations. That's why it's such a threatening technology.

General Motors, Toyo ...

Why even bother with electric cars for personal tranportation. The ideal individual vehicle is a bicycle. People can easily do 25-30mph in a faired bicycle on flat ground. And the efficiency cannot be ...