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Tell us Monte, the oil assessed by the USGS report you keep using, what is its API gravity? And where does its "greater rate" arrive? Is it pumped through the Alaskan pipeline like Prudhoe Bay oil? ...

Go read what the physicist wrote. I'm as confused as him when you pretend physics applies to economics.

I never said it did. That's in your head.

You cannot get more energy out of a system tha ...

So you're using a figure you doubt? Why not spend a few seconds or minutes searching the interwebs for more realistic figures that you don't doubt?

I doubt we will ever be able to consume 30 mbpd, ...

ANWR oil is easier to produce and at a greater rate than Bakken.

I know of no one, save you, who disputes that fact.

It's ludicrous to assert otherwise.

Why do I bother?

How does one exit ...

You want to act pompous and self righteous at the same time, you better be prepared for people to notice when you are WRONG as well.

Endlessly? Give it a rest, dude.

I wasn't wrong. The number ...

I know exactly how professionals debate. And write. And publish. And if you aren't already aware of it, none of those places are HERE.

Largely because of trolls like you you wish to stir up rancor. ...

The Bakken has ALREADY outproduced ANWR. Its been that way for DECADES, and it could possibly stay that way forever.

Not sure what his point is, beings that ANWR can't have been outproduced by B ...

My point is you cannot have real growth in good and services without an increase in energy inputs.Course ya can, via appropriate efficiency increases.Can you point to any example of an economy that ha ...

Would you quit it with the Ad Hominem attacks? If instead of attacking other posters you used that time to research your statements, you probably wouldn't need to doubt the figures you use in the fir ...

I thought this thread was supposed to be about the Bakken?

KTH has turned it into a Montequest bash. I won't reply to him anymore.

The last thing we need is someone full of rancor like him.

I explained why it matters. And when people catch errors in my presentations THE FIRST TIME THEY SEE IT, I certainly don't consider it childish, I expect it.

You didn't just "catch the error", you ...

Your view is that the bakken will slow the rate of growth of crude imports, when the growth of imports has been NEGATIVE going into year 3.

And you think this is sustainable? Rolling Eyes

You apply ...

My point is you cannot have real growth in good and services without an increase in energy inputs.Course ya can, via appropriate efficiency increases.

Bet your butt you can.

Two idiots.

Unsus ...

Well according to Monte, we're gonna get to 30mbpd in 2025 before that happens.

No, I doubt we will ever consume that much. But a normal economy is going to want to. That's what EIA and the IPAA ...

Fine. Postponed. There is nothing in the law of conservation of energy that implies you can extract energy from a system ("growth" as you call it) provided you at some later point put energy into t ...