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Have you seen pictures of these 250mpg cars? They are cute little flimsey techy toys.

Huh, my flimsy little toy was built in response to the oil scare of the seventies. It's somewhat analogous in ...

Yes, we are. Just because you can't understand it, doesn't mean it is not true. This is common knowledge, my friend. Not up for debate.

The burden of proof falls in your court again buddy. What yo ...

Love it. Your link is to a poisonous plant used to make poisonous darts with all manner of health effects from exposure to it:

Huh, we're buring it as fuel not eating it or rubbing it in our fa ...

Last time, Net Primary Production is photosynthesis.

So, net primary production is photosythesis. And almost all plants get their energy from the sun, in fact you could state that almost all biomas ...

So, that leaves out the USA, except for Hawaii.

Sounds like you mean Brazil. Brazil's abundance of land, sunshine and rain make it ideal for sugar cane.

Brazil, where ever, it really doesn't m ...

You still don't grasp you are debating an ecologist who does his homework, do you?

Net Primary Production is from photosynthesis.

Net primary productivity is the rate at which carbohydrates are ...

Strawman argument? We are using corn-based ethanol in the US. That is the govt plan, these are the numbers.

Yes, and we drive SUV's that get 10mpg. This doesn't mean that there aren't vehicles of ...

Well, we're using something like 40% of the Earth's productive capacity

I thought this was nonsense?

You stated something along the lines of photosythetic production in your first iteration of ...

the smallscale discussion by MQ}

Why would we use (most likely corn based) ethanol in the US*? It yields very little energy for inefficient use in inefficient vehicles. The only places ethanol ...

Holy mother of god, where do you come up with these numbers!???

The math just does not support a large scale operation. This has been demonstrated to be factual numerous times which is why the Moth ...

Given the future decline in FF resources we will have to switch to other, cheaper, more abundant forms of energy such as fission and biofuel. This will also entail a switch to more efficient mechanism ...

Good lord!

Because most people don't know that most of the earth's oxygen comes from the ocean and not from terrerestial plants. Totally relevant.

But there's tons of info related to carbon diox ...

A viable option for/to what?

I will no longer engage people in a debate who do not show a professional demeanor.

This is not a game.

That's odd. Why did your initial reply to my post contain no relevant information (with re ...

This is the Energy Technology forum. The Peak oil forum is 70% of the world's oxygen, and thus 70% of the CO2 absorbtion, takes place in the ocean's phytoplankton.

That's great MonteQuest! Laughing

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