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DomusAlbion
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:54 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Pops wrote:
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Oops. Thanks for fixing it, Pops.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:11 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

CNN is listing the high as $60.98 now. Two cents from $61.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:36 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Let 60.54 go down as the all time high settle on NYMEX.

Moving on, why such a dramatic rise?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:11 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I think it's just what they've been saying: $60 was a psychological barrier. Now that that's breached, we can expect prices to rise faster. Until the next psychological barrier, anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:37 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

until they all realize it's all just psychology and see no more reason not to go out of their minds...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:25 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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So why is demand for oil still strong at $60 a barrel?

(from a Bloomberg story)

That's the $60...$70...$80...$100...$150 question, isn't it?

Could it be because--people want it bad enough to pay for it, regardless of price?

NAH.

That's too crazy, huh? Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:00 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

We're down almost a buck as I write this.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:49 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Down more than $2.

But I'm not surprised. I'm expecting a lot of volatility. And I figured there'd be some profit-taking. This is a typical pattern. It will fall back, then surge ahead again.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:21 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Does anyone remember if over the last several months if the prices has been trending up during the month or is it more random than that?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:28 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Pops wrote:
Does anyone remember if over the last several months if the prices has been trending up during the month or is it more random than that?

Does this help?

http://tinyurl.com/92caj
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:58 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Shannymara wrote:
Pops wrote:
Does anyone remember if over the last several months if the prices has been trending up during the month or is it more random than that?

Does this help?

http://tinyurl.com/92caj


try this

http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=$WTIC,uu[w,a]dalayyay[pb50!b365][vc60][iUb14!La12,26,9]&pref=G
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:33 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Ohanian, why have you selected a 365 moving average? Don't forget a working year is 250 days.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 5:43 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Oil prices went back up again yeaterday, big time. Gasoline futures were up over 5%. What's up? I thought they had all they need for the summer driving season. It seems like the new floor is $55 a barrel. I could be wrong.
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I just read an article that stated this 4th of July might break a travel record.

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AAA says the Fourth of July weekend beginning today could see more Americans traveling than ever before. The automobile association estimates more than 40 million Americans will be traveling at least 50 miles from home over the long weekend.

The vast majority will be heading out on the highway to visit family and friends or to hit the beaches. And the travel service says higher gasoline prices won't be keeping Americans home. Pump prices are up, on average, roughly 24 cents a gallon over what they were a year ago.

Travel groups say motorists can expect bottlenecks in popular areas as the summer travel season hits high gear. Among the worst places to go traffic-wise is the mid-Atlantic shore, where backups in some spots often reach six hours.



With oil demand set to outstrip supply in fourth quarter 2005, I think the price of oil, gasoline and diesel have to go a lot higher. The prices right now don't appear to be causing significant demand destruction.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:56 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Why would crude oil rise in expectation of 4th of July? Doesn't take a while for crude to be made into gasoline?

Another thing I have been wondering about is the relationship between the USA and world oil prices. It seems like every little thing affecting the US market, like American weather, American holidays, American petroleum stocks, instantly affects the international oil market. Is this because most traders are American , and therefore quite uninterested/ignorant about other parts of the world and therefore also make bad predictions?

or is it because the 25 procent of world oil that US uses really is a big chunk? Like other countries' markets might be affected in similar ways but not in step with each other, cancelling each other out, and therefore watching the US market really makes the best predictions?

Or lies the explanation in the economic journalists that have to find a reason for ups and downs in the oil prices and then look to things in hte USA? Again, are most commentators of the oil market Americans? It seem like they are - but why?

Just trying to understand how rational or irrational the oil market is.

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