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Cyrus Intermediate Crude


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Ebyss Intermediate Crude


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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". |
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This stuff frightens me so much. _________________ We've tried nothin' and we're all out of ideas.
I am only one. I can only do what one can do. But what one can do, I will do. -- John Seymour. |
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Ludi Expert


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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". |
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Nah, we're fine. What do those climatologists know anyway. Global warming is a myth.  _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow..." - jboogy |
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Cyrus Intermediate Crude


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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". |
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| Quote: | | Nah, we're fine. What do those climatologists know anyway. Global warming is a myth. |
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Liamj Intermediate Crude


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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". |
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| Ludi wrote: | Nah, we're fine. What do those climatologists know anyway. Global warming is a myth.  |
I've come around - i'm now praying (!) that is so.  |
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Specop_007 Expert

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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". |
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Good. I hate shovelling snow from my driveway.
Downside though, I do like to go play in the snowy fields with the 4WD.... Well, lets hope for lots of rain anyways. _________________ "Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the
Abyss, the Abyss gazes also into you."
Ammo at a gunfight is like bubblegum in grade school: If you havent brought enough for everyone, you're in trouble
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Heineken Expert


Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 6173 Location: Rural Virginia
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". |
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A very disturbing story---one of the scariest I've read. I feel sorry for the polar bears and all the other ice-dependent Arctic species that will soon be extinct. I'm not sure I feel as sorry for the human race, which in due course will follow them into oblivion. _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother |
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Tyler_JC Moderator


Joined: Sep 25, 2004 Posts: 4422 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". |
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Past the point
of no return -
no backward glances:
the games we've played
till now are at
an end . . .
Past all thought
of "if" or "when" -
no use resisting:
abandon thought,
and let the dream
descend . . .
What raging fire
shall flood the soul?
What rich desire
unlocks its door?
What sweet seduction
lies before
us . . .?
Past the point
of no return,
the final threshold -
what warm,
unspoken secrets
will we learn?
Beyond the point
of no return . . .
Oh wait, we're talking about global warming...
I personally don't think we have enough fossil fuels to cause runaway global warming, that is, unless we decide to burn everything we have left. (Which is certainly possible).
But a very interesting link none the less. _________________ "www.peakoil.com is the Myspace of the Apocalypse." |
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Cyrus Intermediate Crude


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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:07 pm Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". |
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Tyler, we're humans. Remember?  |
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Tyler_JC Moderator


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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". |
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| Cyrus wrote: | Tyler, we're humans. Remember?  |
No matter how hard we try, we never manage to overcome that insane desire to have everyhting right now. Argh.
And we usually don't try very hard to conserve anything.
Double argh. _________________ "www.peakoil.com is the Myspace of the Apocalypse." |
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Lehyina Heavy Crude


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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:51 pm Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". |
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| Cyrus wrote: | http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article312997.ece  |
I think the world went past the point of no return long ago. Positive feedback started once the arctic tundra stopped acting as a carbon sink and became a carbon source - it has warmed enough that it is releasing stored methane and carbon dioxide. Climate Roulette: Loss of Carbon Sinks & Positive Feedbacks |
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:03 pm Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". |
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I think the whole issue of global warming is grossly overstated. Making a mountain out of a molehill as it were. _________________ "Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the
Abyss, the Abyss gazes also into you."
Ammo at a gunfight is like bubblegum in grade school: If you havent brought enough for everyone, you're in trouble
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Cyrus Intermediate Crude


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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:25 pm Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". |
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I think the whole issue of global warming is grossly overstated. Making a mountain out of a molehill as it were.
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How so?
Not to offend but, do you not care about the condition of the environment, as long as it's livable, in your area, for a short period?
It is becoming very obvious it is being destroyed. Whether you care or not is another story. |
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Lehyina Heavy Crude


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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". |
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| Specop_007 wrote: | | I think the whole issue of global warming is grossly overstated. Making a mountain out of a molehill as it were. |
Well some people such as the residents of The Maldives would be very happy if they could do exactly as you say - make their molehills into mountains - that would help them keep their feet dry. |
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MicroHydro Light Sweet Crude


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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:04 am Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". |
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The gross signs of a runaway greenhouse are now visible from orbit, but the point of no return was passed a long time ago. In all likelihood, the 1970s were the last opportunity to stabilize climate. By the 1980s the warming trend was already well established. But the world had other priorities. _________________ "The world is changed... I feel it in the water... I feel it in the earth... I smell it in the air... Much that once was, is lost..." - Galadriel |
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