Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 6:14 am Post subject: Re: Whats the meaning of life?
seldom_seen wrote:
"The secret of life is to die before you die, and realize there is no death."
Ego death in this way is claimed to be a very transformative
experience. Essentially, "nothing can ever be the same" but
in the most positive terms possible.
Stan Grof's book "the Cosmic Game" is an interesting synthesis
of over 4,000 LSD trips under medical supervision and the
experience of ego death for many troubled, addicted, "crazy",
violent, insitutionalised and terminally ill people, were very
positive indeed.
Not all psychedelic trips however produce such benefits. It
seems to depend a lot on set, setting and what you're looking for.
If it's a party experience that's probably what u will get.
That might explain Leary and McKenna. I could never reconcile
their arrogance and egocentricity with ego death experiences.
I can only conclude they never really had them in all those
thousands of trips.
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: Whats the meaning of life?
Antimatter wrote:
katkinkate wrote:
lowem wrote:
The answer is 42.
No, actually, 42 is the meaning of life, the universe and everything. So if you assume that the elements are listed in the order of importance and that 'everything' represents everything except life and the universe then, the meaning of life = 2, the universe = 3 and everything = 7. Ergo: 2 x 3 x 7 = 42.
The meaning of life is then 'proved' to be 2.
Alternatively, if you assume 'everything' to be literally everything, then life and the universe are subsets of everything and together comprise the totality of everthing, then life = 6 and the universe = 7 and thus everything, being life x the universe = 42.
Therefore, from this premise the meaning of life = 6.
There are 42 gallons of oil in a barrel. Co-incidence?
EXCEPT! the QUESTION was 'what is 7 times 8 ? Proving once and for all that there is no logic in the universe, and if there is intelligent design, then the creator is one cosmic shakespearean 'puck', moving players at his will, and laughing at the results.
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: Whats the meaning of life?
Anonymous wrote:
EXCEPT! the QUESTION was 'what is 7 times 8 ?
EXCEPT EXCEPT, I thought the derived question was what is six times nine!
Especially when the answer was pulled out onto a scrabble board, - no numbers! _________________ "Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers." - Henry Louis Mencken
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:21 am Post subject: Re: Whats the meaning of life?
Can't say 'whats the meaning of life' (no concious knowledge of outside this life box) but think i have a handle on 'what to do with life' - live it, walk the path, with as much grace, wonder and humility as can muster at any given moment.
We're all inevitably stupid, base, selfish or humourless at times (even jesus/buddah/etc, imho), but they're 'the shadows that prove light beautiful'. Since the former are maladaptive, making us and our cohabitants sick and miserable, reducing the total sum and resilience of life, the general direction is i think actually fairly obvious, tho fear or ignorance can do very good jobs hiding it, and habit is a damn tenacious master. But my own experience is that there quite clearly IS a 'path', that dogma and being ego-dominated obscure it, and that the rewards (in here and now)of faithfully trying to walk that path are substantial, nearly always surprising.
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:38 am Post subject: Re: Whats the meaning of life?
Anonymous wrote:
Stan Grof's book "the Cosmic Game" is an interesting synthesis
of over 4,000 LSD trips under medical supervision and the
experience of ego death for many troubled, addicted, "crazy",
violent, insitutionalised and terminally ill people, were very
positive indeed.
Thanks guest, I immediately ordered the book. Of course the name Sanislav Grof is not a new one to me however, I never read any of his literature.
Joined: Apr 02, 2005 Posts: 1001 Location: Down Under
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:28 am Post subject: Re: Whats the meaning of life?
//Deep Austrian accent
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women! _________________ "Mother Nature is a psychopathic bitch, and she is out to get you. You have to adapt, change or die." - Tihamer Toth-Fejel, nanotech researcher/engineer.
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:56 am Post subject: Re: Whats the meaning of life?
By the way I just happend to see the start of the last Titan 4 out of Vandenberg AFB a few days ago in a distance of probably 50 miles or so. It was totally random while walking in the tourist village of Sollvang.
It first looked like a plane somehow due to the condensation mark but immediately it became clear that this was something else. It took only about a minute roughly before the projectile became invisible (this is what it looked like, simply like a bullet) and only then a deep thunder came on.
One of the last things visible was the drop of one of the stages.
So there we are, kissing the good old 60's good bye and all the belief in an endlessly evolving techno future.
Joined: Nov 28, 2004 Posts: 12426 Location: Neither Here Nor There
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: Whats the meaning of life?
albente wrote:
By the way I just happend to see the start of the last Titan 4 out of Vandenberg AFB a few days ago in a distance of probably 50 miles or so. It was totally random while walking in the tourist village of Sollvang.
Damn, I love the central coast. I miss it already, albente. As you know, I spent four years up there going to college.
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