[Economics] PO Jobs

duff_beer_dragon

Peak Jobs peaked in my area before I was even born.......

I went into a science degree first, didn't like the animal testing and ignorance as regards what I as a layperson already knew about other discliplines - it was as if there was no cross-over of other subjects to one another, so I jacked that right in (gave it another shot different subjects, even worse) ;

so early on, I was about 17 or 18, I decided to entirely stuff going after the money and to get only involved in eco-logical stuff, for the future, that would always be relevant.......couldn't find and work or courses in such, so wound up in factories - did manage to get on what was meant to be a training course for conservation / practical environmental skills - did learn a bit (mostly hard landscaping), but it was a fake run by shysters and they didn't give me my bonus nor the certificate I should have gotten either.........

then I found the only organic horticulture course in the UK, got a job as a beach attendant, and saved my money so I could move to England and do the organics course, which turned out to be dedicated to hating anyone into organics, more or less, and we got like one day a week of organic anything........

ran out of money, etc, moved back to Scotland........still no work in anything 'green' at all availible, still no courses (that has remained true up til as-of-this-posting now - nada, zilch, f-all availible, jobs or training)..

did voluntary work, got bored with that and not getting anywhere, went back to college to do animation (they were meant to run a computer games course, they still haven't started running it yet), did a year, got a cert. for that, too many evil people plus no promises fulfilled as regards the many claims about availible jobs - never any proof of what the college claimed they had as contacts........blah........

tried electronics next year, heard about how passing a magnet over conductive wire makes an electric current - gave me the idea for the machines I posted about when I joined up at these forums first, left - due to too many w*nkers there too - the same ones as before from all the other places (can I swear here, I'll asterisk it out) who weren't there for the actual course.........then heard that the English college I'd been at was now running a full-time organics course, so - saved up again, moved, did about 5 weeks of that, back packed in for no reason, couldn't walk hardly and in waaay too much pain, had to chuck course ; so didn't want to waste moving down there all that way - changed over to do multimedia.........

started out fine, handed in all my work, was way ahead of all deadlines (yes including the 2 week suspension), passed (at least) everything - got bullied tho' ( as in attacked by large groups of boys against one me, none of whom I knew at all ), various staff made up lies that I was racist ( some of the bullies were black, many were promoting Islamic fundamentalism, many abused me racially for being Scottish, and sometimes got it wrong and abused me for being Irish - they couldn't tell the difference in accents ), other staff instructed me on what to do my end so they could stop the bullying - all of which I did, they still blamed me for fighting back against the bullies and first suspended me for a fortnight, then expelled me completely from the college ).........didn't get all the modules I had completed on the certificate sent out........

loads of people say Scotland is a leader in animation and games - rubbish, there's no work at all,

there's no work in the Environmental Task Force set up by the Blair govt. - it is for unemployed people - I've been that for years - not one thing has ever showed up ever for the ETF

I am and have been willing all along to do low-pay jobs in much needed environmental stuff - they don't exist, there are no jobs.

I applied to set up LETS schemes and start things like local produce veg plots, etc - they don't give the jobs to anyone who actually wants to get things working right.

duff_beer_dragon · Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:38 pm Post subject: sux

and - having been of immigrant family stock myself, the racist etc crap was all the more insulting, I never fitted in because being mostly Italian geneticly means I look completely different from the usual Scots, then you go to Italy every summer and don't fit in there either, and not just because it's almost impossible to get used to the huge difference in sunlight and sunstrength during a short-ass holiday.

rant, hopefully over ; not that I want anything to complain about

stepka · Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:43 pm Post subject:

Hang in there, Duff the Magic Dragon. Your time is a comin'.

I've got another career here. Distiller of spirits. Wine, beer, moonshine. I just ran across a good website, that runs you through the whole process.
http://www.homedistiller.org/ Most people can't even imagine how it's done, so if you study up, you'll be miles ahead, and when times are bad, hooch will still be in demand.

duff_beer_dragon · Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:22 am Post subject: re:

Thankyou, seriously, it makes a big difference even someone just caring enough to post anything encouraging.

I've just turned 28 tho' ; I consider myself very old and jaded, this stuff like 'make your own biodiesel' etc was meant to be availible for folks like me to start at school, now I'm too poor to move anywhere else, and having to sign-on for money means I can't really book courses in advance (which are pretty expensive too).

( my family have vineyards over in Italy ; but when I wanted to go over and learn that they stopped me from going and said my uncle didn't want me over there ; so I'm never sure of the true situation as regards me family over here and over there - I don't know enough Italian language to speak to them directly myself and try and find out, hell - my parents wouldn't even explain what happened with our American relatives or the ones that escaped from commie Albania - I still have no info. on any of that either )

emacs · Coal Joined: Oct 20, 2004 Posts: 7 Location: Germany

I guess every kind of the old handcraft jobs will be a good decision. For my example, I learned the job carpenter here in Germany three years long. Of course we worked with electrical machines like saws and things like that but I also learned to use the old tools without any electrical support. And I think that it will be in other handcraft jobs the same. For the blacksmith: Yes in the early days they used charcole to keep the fire hot, it is possible to weld steel in a blacksmith's fire.

emacs

tmazanec1 · Heavy Crude Joined: Oct 12, 2004 Posts: 424

I am a janitor/gofer at a group home, what prospects are for this line of work?

duff_beer_dragon · Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:09 am Post subject: re:

Janny's or janitors tend to know how to run the building's maintenance, and repair the important everyday stuff - so, very needed skills I would think.

I was wondering - if that person that says my time is coming knows when I get my 1943 cent back then?

highlander · Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:52 am Post subject:

How about a peddler? A lot of small communities are now without any grocery stores (It's easier to drive 20-30 miles into the bigger towns with a Wal-mart superstore to get your milk and bread) If one had a diesel motorhome stocked full of fresh groceries other essentials and drove a circuit of these small towns, not only would you meet a need for fresh food, but you would likely meet quite a few interesting individuals.

duff_beer_dragon · Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 11:04 am Post subject: meals on wheels

We have something called Organic Box Schemes - I worked for a while packing them, in England of course! there isn't anything like that around here, altho' I do intend to check that again and see if I can get some work delivering boxes - last time I checked there was no demand so I couldn't do that up here.

They work that way tho' - there's usually various sizes of boxes availible, and you can select how often you want them delivered. I think the main one down in London (they cover most of the country, but there's loads of local ones and other people doing it too) still does 3 veg box sizes, a fruit box, a dairy box and a meat box - probably a baby one too with food and nappies, stuff like that.

That would be even better if it was a bio-diesel vehicle for deliveries.

jpatti · Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 3:06 pm Post subject:

chris-h · Heavy Crude Joined: Oct 11, 2004 Posts: 447

Medical Doctor for sure.
But someone with knowledge of herbs because modern medicine MAY be in a short supply .

And anybody than can fix things.
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frankthetank · Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 11:03 pm Post subject:

US Treasury Employee...

There going to need to run the presses around the clock!!!

Laughing

Police Officer (to keep the starving zombie masses at bay)
Soldier (someone needs to fight the terrorists)
Coal Miner (these are already in big demand)

savethehumans · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Oct 20, 2004 Posts: 1541

Actually, for those of us not mechanically, medically, or agriculturally inclined (for the latter, I once killed a cactus by watering it too much--that should pretty much give you the idea!), it will be essential to develop a skill that will be barterable, so that you can get little items like food, drink, clothing, etc. I'm planning on learning stuff like knitting (that includes darning!), crocheting, maybe hand-sewing, and definitely canning. Stuff that, if I'd known about Peak Oil as a kid, I'd have gotten my grandparents (now deceased; they lived in the country) to teach me this stuff. And it would've been free! Rats! Sad

MrGresham · Tar Sands Joined: Oct 13, 2004 Posts: 23

Best job?

When considering this, you should consider the starting point of yourself and the reader. Suppose a doctor makes 300,000 now, and will make the equivalent of 100,000 post-PO. Of course that's an easy occupation to recommend. So why aren't you a doctor already? (I sound like somebody's mother, saying that..)

We have x-hundred thousand doctors now (and 600,000 lawyers, yikes!) who all went through something to get to that position of advantage. Those hurdles were apparently not surmountable by all of us, or we would have done so.

(BTW, think where the funding for doctors comes from:
(1) Government. (Taxes, IRS)
(2) Insurance companies. (Now under investigation. Take in premiums. Invest them in bonds, stocks.)
(3) Sick people. (Sick people don't work much.)

I would say the bull market in being a doctor is over, for the cost to get into it.

I could facilely say: Corporate Executive. Why? Because you'd make so much money now, you wouldn't have to work post-PO, ok? Smile

So just go and be one o' those.

The key for me in viewing this question is what attainable occupation will gain in RELATIVE value next to others of equal attainability by a person of moderate skills.

I think we're right to emphasize the physical jobs of earlier times, but not necessarily back to blacksmithing horses. I think that is just simply rolling back the calendar.

Anyway, my candidate (as I contemplate calling for some help with problem wiring in my home and barn) is:

ELECTRICIAN

Why, I might even take a few courses...

saty · Coal Joined: Oct 21, 2004 Posts: 2

I'm a computer scientist/software engineer and I am studying environmental science part time at university. I should complete my env sci degree just as PO begins to turn things ugly. So my plan is to hoard assets, equipment, etc. with the money I am making now programming and then work in the env sci field post-peak. They will need people to manage water catchments, advise farmers on organics, advise on land use patterns, clean up pollution, and probably even program small computer systems to support these functions.

How does that plan sound to everyone? Please give me feedback Smile