I think this is the beginnings of an economy based on perpetual growth and fossil fuel energy running headlong into geological energy constraints. Basically I see an undulatory downward path for the rest of my life. From here out, I think any rallies in our economic condition are going to be met with spiking commodity prices that knock us right back down.
Joined: Nov 28, 2004 Posts: 12705 Location: Neither Here Nor There
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:13 pm Post subject: National ID for Livestock
Big Brother is set to put a stop to small-scale livestock operations. Well maybe not a stop, but they will surely create problems for small operations:
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Poultry fanciers and keepers of small flocks are facing a grave threat from a proposed government intrusion into their innocent choice of pastimes and way of life.
For several years, the USDA has been working with the largest-scale animal industry organizations (for example, the National Pork Producers, Monsanto Company, and Cargill Meat) to develop a mandatory "National Animal Identification System" ("NAIS").
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By January 1, 2008, the NAIS will be mandatory. (Plan, pp. 2, 10, 17.)
Every person who owns even one horse, cow, pig, chicken, sheep, pigeon, or virtually any livestock animal, will be forced to register their home, including owner's name, address, and telephone number, and keyed to Global Positioning System coordinates for satellite monitoring, in a giant federal database under a 7-digit "premises ID number." (St., pp. 3-4, 10-12; Plan, p. 5.)
Every animal will have to be assigned a 15-digit ID number, also to be kept in a giant federal database. The form of ID will most likely be a tag or microchip containing a Radio Frequency Identification Device, designed to be read from a distance. (Plan, p. 10; St., pp. 6, 12, 20, 27-28.)
The plan may also include collecting the DNA of every animal and/or a retinal scan of every animal. (Plan, p.13.)
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The owner will be required to report: the birthdate of an animal, the application of every animal's ID tag, every time an animal leaves or enters the property, every time an animal loses a tag, every time a tag is replaced, the slaughter or death of an animal, or if any animal is missing. Such events must be reported within 24 hours. (St., pp. 12-13, 17-21.)
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: National ID for Livestock
Find them near your crops and land shoot to farking kill. it is nearing a time to kill.
Usurpers and wolves in sheeps clothing. The war has been on for awhile now. It will only excellerate as these filthy scum find new ways to profit and own in the face of resource depletion. Build your defenses ASAP. They keep farking breeding and spreading their vile seed and those seeds need profits and ownership. Its a never ending pattern that can only be dealt with by exterminating the offensive invaders.
The forces are building.
http://www.thefutureoffood.com/involved.htm http://www.nfu.org/
Joined: Nov 28, 2004 Posts: 12705 Location: Neither Here Nor There
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: National ID for Livestock
I get a really bad feeling that when TSHTF the Feds will become intolerably ferocious and that the sheeple will be egging them on. The sheeple are going to have blood in their eyes.
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: National ID for Livestock
Yes the sheeple. The sheep need to be culled. I will have no remorse in exterminating these spineless drones. It does seem they are getting more agressive now in the face of depletion of all types. There little insulated theory world is gbeginning to crumble. worthless biomass.
This is just the beginning of the last rape and resource grab. The dumb Fark who talk all their theoretical hogwash need to be lined up and executed as well. they are the ones promoting this jihad behavior as well. Very pathetic. these are the "patriots". man PMS this is playing out just like the facsists handbook. and the so called "free man" is just a little worthless puke yes man.Man TV and radio worked perfectly.
Man we have some great Free noble Warriors in this country. I look upon my leaders and fellow man as a freshley shat stool. But there are warriors left. Hiding out. waiting.
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: National ID for Livestock
It's a race against time.
Those who sit at the control panel of the megamachine will desperately try to increase their control as the machine itself starts to wobble and break in to pieces.
Trying to RFID every cow, chicken and duck is not an idea borne out of reason but out of desperation.
The megamachine will collapse, there is no doubt, but it won't go without a fight. The last great rape of nature will be the most ugly and dangerous manifestation of this breakdown.
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: National ID for Livestock
Seldom seen very true. We are entering that phase. I actually think we entered years ago but it was able to lay undetected. Now there is just too much human biomass and mass migrations to keep on the down low now. and we have more worthless turds now than before. More cattle. defense must be enacted. The cats out of the bag now. Beware the pukes with the plastic smiles and having all the "solutions".
Joined: May 29, 2005 Posts: 775 Location: Schweinland-Pfalz
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: National ID for Livestock
Do you see now why I find the apocalyptic, zombie army post-PO scenario so ridiculous?
The people in power have far too much to lose in such a scenario and they would never allow it to come true. What we can expect is some sort of collectivistic “–ism” Call it communism or fascism of you like. There is no difference at all. The state and the corporations have been a single unit for hundreds of years all over the world. Sometimes it leans towards left and sometimes it leans towards right. It is a chameleon which can take any shape depending on the current situation. There are two kinds of people in this world. The people in power and the people obeying those in power.
In order to control the people you have to make them obey rules, no matter how ridiculous. You have to make them stand in lines, fill in forms and do other meaningless things. You have to punish them for breaking insane laws and regulations. You have to tell them that you’re doing this for their own best. When they believe you and do as you say, you throw them a bone in form of entertainment. Now you have total control and can do as you please without any objections.
As a believer in unconditional personal freedom I have to fight the left and the right at the same time. The leftists call me a fascist and the rightists call me a communist. This is what we see here in this forum in all those endless liberalism vs. conservatism threads. This is exactly what “it” wants you to do. Select a favourite political view like you select a favourite hockey team and spend all your energy debating which team is the best. Divide and conquer.
This livestock ID regulation is only a symptom of the disease. Everyday I find another example of how the remaining freedom is taken away piece by piece.
I think it was Semler who mentioned that we don’t have any personal freedom anymore. Only privileges sanctioned by the state. _________________ Was soll das?
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: National ID for Livestock
Well said Schweinshaxe. The megamachine will carry the flag of the left, the right or any other flag to achieve its ends.
Although you do have to consider the possibility that should this corporate/governmental juggernaut disintegrate. All the people who are inextricably wound up in the system will be like helpless children, their umbilical cords severed from the machine. Which would most likely lead to one form or another of a "apocalyptic, zombie army post-PO scenario."
Joined: Nov 21, 2004 Posts: 579 Location: ~170ft/lbs@0rpm (on my bike)
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:41 am Post subject: Re: National ID for Livestock
PenultimateManStanding wrote:
Beyond sucking your thumb, what else have you got to say?
Clearly I was sucking my thumb because you said so. Unfortunately, like Schweinshaxe mentioned, the cows are out the barn door, down the street, rounded up and slaughtered, and sold to you for diner...
Don'tcha think it's a bit late in the game to be worrying about livestock ID? We do work at the whim of others, who in turn decided (to varying extents) what we get to buy, where we get to go, who we get to Fark, and how we live. Dependence facilitates control, and most people can't change their own oil, let alone support their current needs alone.
Now if we lived in a society where all information was free, each human was alloted rations and a roof over their head, and had the freedom to create what they wanted based on equitables laws and wealth distribution, then sure, something like this might be a significant infringement. But now... it's way too late in the game to worry about this. _________________ "Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. "
Joined: Nov 21, 2004 Posts: 579 Location: ~170ft/lbs@0rpm (on my bike)
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:58 am Post subject: Re: Keep a chicken (or a horse), go to jail....
gg3
So somehow this paperwork is going to sink these farmers? So these people do nothing but work and have no free time at all? Could they do twice as much work if they didn't have to do their taxes once a year? Claiming that the paperwork will run their farm into the ground seems a bit, out there...
We can already be tracked, I suppose this is just a matter of information storage and retrieval, a conveinience if you will. Not that this is anything new, corporations have been compiling and selling information to each other for quite some time. It's interesting to see who gets what, by say, using different aliases for various "free" offers. It gives you an idea of who sells what to who, and how far it gets spread.
Anyhow... No, I don't give a crap if they stick tracking chips in strawberries (Cars with OnStar already have 'em.). As participants in our own exploitation we deserve every bit of what we get. And as our respective castes become more technologically proficient, the noose will tighten. We're just too far behind... _________________ "Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. "
Joined: May 15, 2005 Posts: 4142 Location: THE MATRIX
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:03 am Post subject: Re: Keep a chicken (or a horse), go to jail....
It was illegal to own gold at one time.
I am sure many people scoffed at the thought prior to the legislation and enforcement thereof.
I do give a crap.
Livestock is in my very near future.
Perhaps the thing which isnt in my near future is being a citizen of the united states of Amerikkka.
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I look upon my leaders and fellow man as a freshley shat stool. But there are warriors left. Hiding out. waiting.
