THE Bush Administration Thread (merged)

eastbay

I wonder what the tone of this board would be if this crap had occurred under a D's administration. Would the invectives be spewed like bile, or would conditions be ignored.

I remember not all that long ago chanting:

'hey, hey, LBJ,
how many kids did you kill today!

LBJ was a Democrat, remember?

To me, it makes no difference which of the two virtually identical major US political parties ignites a pointless resource war. Clinton, Bush2, and Blair should all be tried as war criminals for starting the deadly recent waves of illegal military occupations. But they won't ever be tried as war criminals because, as everyone well knows, in this era the losers get jailed or executed as war criminals, not the victors.
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Heineken

As PraiseDoom and eastbay intimate, most of us are almost as down on "D's" as we are on "R's," Highlander. Both groups are responding almost equally hopelessly badly to the world's real challenges.

On average, the D's are a little better---they care a little more about the environment, a little more about the working man, a little more about the health care morass, a little more about the Constitution, a little less about pumping up militarism, and so forth.

Are they, mostly, spineless scum sucking up to the corporations? Of course they are. Just not QUITE as sharmlessly as the Gut Our Planet party.

Carter was less harmful than Bush. At its core, that's all I said, and all I'm saying.

I do agree with Carter that Bush is the worst yet. We were saying it here long before Carter did.

eastbay

We were saying it here long before Carter did.

Heck yes I have!! I've been saying it to anyone who would listen since US soldiers stepped on Afghan soil and the US military occupation of that desperate impoverished nation began. That was the moment Bush2 became the very worst US president in American history. By the time the US military occupation of Iraq was underway I would have thought everyone would feel the same as I do.

But no, and it's because there are many Americans who would still support Bush2 if the bloodthirsty maniac started regularly prowling the streets of DC at night while on all fours hunting and eating stray cats for breakfast.
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IntentionallyLeftBlank

One of my coworkers, a Republican, is of the opinion that "Carter was too smart to be president." I love that quote! He even named one of his sons after Carter because he admired his post presidential humanitarian efforts.

Plantagenet

Heineken

So you consider killing and maiming tens of thousands of innocent civilians, including babies, a "just" response for 9/11?

How about the permanent bankrupting of America to pay for Afghanistan and the other wars of aggression? Is that a "just" response.

I've read that your vaunted "Northern Alliance" actually controls only small areas of Kabul, Plantagenet. The opium trade is still fully in place, and the mountain strongholds are unshaken. Your empire will never triumph over those proud, tough-as-nails people, a lesson that contributed to the demise of the USSR and will have a hand in your own empire's downfall.

All the empire has achieved in Afghanistan is to throw oil on the fires of hated against the US, ensuring more terrorism.

Heineken

vision-master

I heard Afghanistan has a crap-load of Natural gas?

IntentionallyLeftBlank

Don't know about that, but there were those plans to build an oil pipeline from the Caucuses to the Indian Ocean that would run through Afghanistan. I would think those plans have been shelved once again, still too much instability.

Ahh Afghanistan, the graveyard of Imperial ambitions.

PraiseDoom · Heavy Crude Joined: Apr 23, 2007 Posts: 297

eastbay

Afghanistan doesn't have enough natural gas to get excited about and no oil to speak of. The US military occupation of that poor nation is truly pointless and idiotic as are all of the military occupations Bush2 has ordered.

edit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Afghanistan_Pipeline

This may be what you're referring to.
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vision-master

But they sure got lot's of this....

shakespear1 · Light Sweet Crude Joined: May 13, 2005 Posts: 1552

The Bird

If this isn't a wake up call that he is just one of us little people than I don't know what will convince him that it is so Smile

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Zardoz · Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 2:24 am Post subject: Re: Gonzales is toast

Yet another strategy to force him out:

Gonzales will face no-confidence vote
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