THE Jimmy Carter Thread (merged)

Eli

Well that is where this whole mess got started back at the fact that by Carter merely questioning the party line put out by AIPAC he gets raked across the coals.
EJ
I think Carter does call on the Palestinians to use non-violent protest. I doubt it is in them, the Palestinians right now are given over to way too much violence.
I agree much more with the Ultra Orthodox anti- Zionist who believe that modern Israel is committing a sin. They believe that it is the Messiah that is supposed to lead the Jews back to Israel.
Modern Israel is kind of schizophrenic, on the one hand they are secular then on the other thy chose the land because of religious reasons. Very screw ball logic. They should have taken over New Jersey they would have been better off.

EJ I am right there with you brother in that same place. I think the suffering to come will serve a clear purpose(I hope). When all this stuff comes crashing down it will be much easier to see who is peaceful and who has love and those that do not.

Polemic

rogerhb

Zardoz

I_Like_Plants

(to the Oscar Meyer song)
My president has a first name, it's j-i-m-m-y
My president has a second name, it's c-a-r-t-e-r,
I love to hate him every day,
And if you ask me why I'll say,
'Cause Jimmy Carter has a way of screwing up the USA!

We were raised singing this!
OK, so we know things went in the tank under Carter's watch, but did he really screw up the USA? Or did he inherit problems caused by Nixon such as going off of the gold standard, historical events like the end of the Vietnam War and thus the withering of the military-industrial complex, and things in the Middle East caused by Israel?

cynicalheretic · permanently banned Joined: Nov 02, 2006 Posts: 754

Still 10 times the president George Bush could ever be

jboogy

he gets ridiculed for having paul volker do the short-term painful but long-term correct thing by raising interest rates to keep the economy from overheating and thereby keeping inflation and excess liquidity(bubbles) from happening. his economic policies were too complicated and correct for most of the public to understand.oil price shocks were beyond his ability ,or beyond his desire to mitigate. he could probably have worked a shady deal with opec to maintain low prices but I think he understood better than most the consequences of dealing with the devil.I (unlike most conservatives) at least give him credit for trying to rescue the hostages.He advocated energy conservation before most politicians had even heard of the concept. And don't forget he partied with Willie Nelson on the roof of the white house,how fooken' cool is that?

kochevnik · Intermediate Crude Joined: Aug 20, 2004 Posts: 881

I met Carter in the late '70's - both time at the White House no less Smile

The 70's are the blueprint for the beginning of what is to come - and Carter is the pre-eminent example of why we are so very very f**ked.
'merkans don't want to hear the truth - it hurts their brains. So they didn't listen then and they won't listen now either.
Bend over boys.
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Denny

I saw an interview today on CBC Newsworld with Heather Hiscox. Jimnmy Carter, at age 86 is coherent, thoughtful and engaged with the inteviewer. He has really put a lot of effort ito this new book, and he paints a lot of the background issues as to why the middle eaast struggle will ocntinue ad infinitum., unless social circusmtances are changed expecialy with the Palestinians.

It is a startling contrast to George W. Bush. Bush seems to either unfocused or he is trying to score short verbal javbs, which often don't fit into the context, as if he's been coached on what to say, but poorly coached. Also, at times, Bush seems to fall into a vacant expression. I really wonder wonder if Carter is not more astute right now to be president than is Bush.

I would not be surprised if Carter has written more books in his lifetime than Bush has read in his.

mos6507 · Fission Joined: Aug 03, 2007 Posts: 2853

Bush just follows Carter's lead:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Doctrine

billp

mos6507 · Fission Joined: Aug 03, 2007 Posts: 2853

The video is interesting to watch, but even better is to look at the comments. The amount of anger being displayed. I think we're very well into the transition from denial into anger as was said earlier.