I Have an Idea About New IC Engine Configuration, Need Help

evilgenius

Blueghost,

I got that. This idea is only brought up as something to bridge the gap. I don't think that the world can do in five years, from the time it finally wakes up, what realistically will take twenty or thirty. I think if we can pump up the fuel efficiency of automobiles to at least fifty miles per gallon we can gain a few years. A few years to come to consensus about the true effort that has to be done.

I've got loads of ideas about how to build high-speed over head suspension, to replace rail because it is so much cheaper and easier to put into place quickly, lines for mass transit. Gulf and Western tried a single line years ago but it was unstable. It isn't unstable if you mount the lines in tandem instead of singley.

Also it might be possible to extract hydrogen from water as a vehicle goes along. Using the same basic principle as a plant uses it might be possible to carry a tank of water and extract only the hydrogen required at the moment or a small store. A charged membrane would separate the hydrogen from the water. The technology for this has existed for quite a few years but is being used in a different field. Researched, as we need to research, and applied to this field and it means the end to the puzzle of how to store enough hydrogen on board the vehicle of the future. You would store water and expel oxygen from the hydrogen formation process. These same would be recombined to expel water from a fuel cell.

Doly · Expert Joined: Dec 03, 2004 Posts: 4031

evilgenius

That is exactly the point. The amount of electricity used is minimal. The charged membrane doesn't exist yet, by the way, but with the proper amount of research the priciple should hold. The field that uses the technology is geologic prospecting (also alternative medicine,- the rife machine). The technology is molecular frequency discrimination. It isn't so much about forcing hydrogen to separate from oxygen as it is about coaxing it the way that nature does.

Aedo · Heavy Crude Joined: Jun 23, 2005 Posts: 173

evilgenius

Think of the examples in nature. Plants don't need that much energy to separate hydrogen. This isn't electrolysis. The membrane would be enzymatic. The return wave from the MFD would only serve to turn the membrane on or off. Yes, you would need to input new energy into the system as you went along but not nearly the amount you are suggesting.

Aedo · Heavy Crude Joined: Jun 23, 2005 Posts: 173

Keith_McClary

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You cannot easily replace hydrocarbons with hydrogen.

The reason is: Most of the energy released from the oxidation of hydrocarbons comes from the carbon. The hydrogen does not contribute much.

When you burn hydrocarbon fuels, you burn the product of centuries of energy storage. HC's serve as a battery that takes a really long time to charge. The sun is the charger.

Most of the energy that a plant takes in is turned into carbohdrates. There are the energy storege for the palnt. Most of the energy is in the carbon portion of the equation.

I've worked through these calculations. I'd be happy to do it again. It takes energy to heat the fuel. More energy to break the C-h bonds. Energy is released form the C_O reaction. More from the CO_CO2 reaction. More from the 2H_O reaction. Most of the net energy comes from he carbon. Painful Fact: This is stored solar energy.

There are no subsitutes, in terms of energy density, for hydrocarbons.

Actually there is: Plutonium. Maybe. THis is an economical solution for a billion dollar satelite

evilgenius

I didn't say anything about not using what is basically free in the environment around you to make up the difference. This is about how much energy the user has to come up with, not about the total energy being used to separate the hydrogen from the oxygen.