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Liebig's Law & Overshoot; Why There Will Be a Die-off.
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Is a dieoff going to happen?
yes, and we can't stop it, so deal with it kid
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 43%  [ 54 ]
perhaps, depends on how we respond
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perhaps, if we get some scientific breakthrough or not
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no, it won't get that bad (see Cuba for example)
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who knows?/I have no idea
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Liebig's Law & Overshoot; Why There Will Be a Die-of Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

RedStateGreen wrote:
Have you ever read The Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons?

No, I haven't read any Dan Simmons in decades. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Leibig?s Law, Why There Will Be a Die-off. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

MonteQuest wrote:
If we find ourselves having to adapt to other forms of energy quickly, we may not be able to sustain a breeding population with enough genetic diversity to maintain a viable population.

You might be surprised how small that is. Compared with many mammal species (including chimps) humans are remarkably homogeneous, genetically speaking.

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"But this is not inconsistent with the Toba catastrophe theory which suggests that a bottleneck of the human population occurred ca. 70,000 years ago, positing that the human population was reduced to a c.15,000 individuals[5] when the Toba supervolcano in Indonesia erupted and triggered a major environmental change. The theory is based on geological evidences of sudden climate change, and on coalescence evidences of some genes (including mitochondrial DNA, Y-chromosome and some nuclear genes)[6] and the relatively low level of genetic variation with humans.[5]"
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Liebig's Law & Overshoot; Why There Will Be a Die-of Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Mods, please sticky this thread.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Liebig's Law & Overshoot; Why There Will Be a Die-of Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

MrBean wrote:
The "survival of our species" is not important or anymore important than that of any other species, there just happens to be great likelihood that there will be also humans sharing this Planet in the coming centuries.

maybe i am misinterpreting this; if so, please forgive me. anyway here goes: are you out of your flippin mind?
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