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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:55 pm    Post subject: THE Detention Camp Thread (merged) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps
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A Halliburton subsidiary has just received a $385 million contract from the Department of Homeland Security to provide "temporary detention and processing capabilities."
The contract -- announced Jan. 24 by the engineering and construction firm KBR -- calls for preparing for "an emergency influx of immigrants, or to support the rapid development of new programs" in the event of other emergencies, such as "a natural disaster." The release offered no details about where Halliburton was to build these facilities, or when.

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"Almost certainly this is preparation for a roundup after the next 9/11 for Mid-Easterners, Muslims and possibly dissenters," says Daniel Ellsberg, a former military analyst who in 1971 released the Pentagon Papers, the U.S. military's account of its activities in Vietnam. "They've already done this on a smaller scale, with the 'special registration' detentions of immigrant men from Muslim countries, and with Guantanamo."
Plans for detention facilities or camps have a long history, going back to fears in the 1970s of a national uprising by black militants. As Alonzo Chardy reported in the Miami Herald on July 5, 1987, an executive order for continuity of government (COG) had been drafted in 1982 by FEMA head Louis Giuffrida. The order called for "suspension of the Constitution" and "declaration of martial law." The martial law portions of the plan were outlined in a memo by Giuffrida's deputy, John Brinkerhoff.

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Then in response to Hurricane Katrina in Sept. 2005, according to the Washington Post, White House senior adviser Karl Rove told the governor of Louisiana, Kathleen Babineaux Blanco, that she should explore legal options to impose martial law "or as close as we can get." The White House tried vigorously, but ultimately failed, to compel Gov. Blanco to yield control of the state National Guard.

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It is clear that the Bush administration is thinking seriously about martial law.
Many critics have alleged that FEMA's spectacular failure to respond to Katrina followed from a deliberate White House policy: of paring back FEMA, and instead strengthening the military for responses to disasters.

A multimillion program for detention facilities will greatly increase NORTHCOM's ability to respond to any domestic disorders.

linked through Matt's site and story here
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The ACLU is calling the Republicans the equivalent of the NAZI's. So not they are building concentration camps. I wonder if they thought to include ovens? Maybe burning corpses will be their solution to energy shortages.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

nazi? scary i was thinking the same thing. i dont know whether to laugh or cry at this
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:09 am    Post subject: Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

$385 million dollars is a lot of money.
Say it cost them $50./sq. ft. to build barrack style shelters.That's close to 8 million square feet of barracks.Knock off a third for infrastructure and security.Say 5 million square and allow 50 square feet per person.That's housing for 100.000 people...er,citizens.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:25 am    Post subject: Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Some distantly related piece of history you might need to brush up on when looking at today's events...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:27 am    Post subject: Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

FEMA has had some crude holding facilities (little more than fenced fields on government lands) on standby for over 20 years. A few like Pearblossom in Palmdale, CA have a little more infrastructure. But really they have a long way to go if they are to be used for anything more sophisticated than Cambodian style killing fields.

Enter Halliburton. They also have the contract to build the new, larger, and permanent camp at Gitmo. With huge supplies of tax dollars, they will finally give red state America what it wants, a modern full service Gulag.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:37 am    Post subject: Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The Republicans are Nazis? Nah. Kunstler's got it right: the Repubs are the people who get you so disgusted with the government that you beg the Nazis to take over and set things straight.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:49 am    Post subject: Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Here's Halliburton's page with the announcement:

KBR AWARDED U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY CONTINGENCY SUPPORT PROJECT FOR EMERGENCY SUPPORT SERVICES

"...an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) contract..."

They can build as many of these concentration camps as will be required in order to...

"...support the rapid development of new programs."

"New programs?" Oh, really? And just what might those "programs" be???
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:23 am    Post subject: Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

And here's the press release carried by Reuters, the only mainstream news source I could find on it.

Let's take Halliburton at their word at the moment, and believe that these huge camps are there to be prepared "in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S." Why is the administration suddenly worried about that?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:33 am    Post subject: Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

It's probably completely unrelated, I know, but I'm beginning to wonder what Hitler said to explain the building of concentration camps.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:53 am    Post subject: Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Nazis or Stalin ? Not quite, but as the desperation grows (and we're not even trying to alieviate it) we could find ourselves there.

1930's politics here we come....
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:18 am    Post subject: Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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It's probably completely unrelated, I know, but I'm beginning to wonder what Hitler said to explain the building of concentration camps.

Pretty sure the first ones were for politcal prisoners and dissidents, mainly communists, and that the Nazi government said as much, emphasising the threat they posed etc, etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:04 am    Post subject: Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

A few weeks ago I would have said that this thread was going too far.
The USA being compared to the Nazis is just too ridiculous.

However, having done the PO bit to death, I’ve recently been catching up on 911, Bohemian grove, The Illuminati, Iraq, Iran, Gold, the dollar etc. and I must say it certainly is interesting reading.

I always tend not to subscribe to “conspiracy theories” but I’m willing to give every point of view a fair hearing. Having done so I still believe man walked on the moon and I don’t believe in space aliens (Roswell etc) but I do believe the government lied about 911.

For me the turning point was the pictures of the Pentagon after the supposed plane crash but before the wall collapsed. You don’t need to be an expert or accept anything anyone else says just look at the video/pictures and make your own mind up. I have done this and cannot see how a plane crashed here and so the government lied.

Once you can establish that your dealing with a group of people that are so extreme and have so little respect for human life then everything else must be seriously questioned.

Recent events in the USA don’t look good and things are deteriorating much quicker than I thought possible – Why the hell are they taking away people’s rights and why are they building these camps?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:56 am    Post subject: Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

bobbyald wrote:
Why the hell are they taking away people’s rights and why are they building these camps?

For us, we all know too much.. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Does the uk have anything similar??
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