doomers...real talk. why not just kill yourselves?

Chuckmak

i mean if we're all going to hell in a handbasket tomorrow, why are you even alive? oh woe is me we're gonna die and all hell is gonna break loose and there's nothing we can do about it. i hate to sound @$$holish but just go kill yourselves if you think it's all gonna end horribly and fast. it'd be one less person we'd have to sustain as a whole.
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Raxozanne

I think that doomers on these boards have more or less come to terms with the probability of an apocalyptic scenario and accepted it and some are even waiting in morbid fascination as things take their course. If a catastrophic collapse does occur then doomers might be the best prepared for it (both mentally and materialy). As granma says 'hope for the best and prepare for the worst'.

If anyone it would be the sheeple, confronted out of the blue with such a disaster scenario that would be the ones panicking and heading for the cliff.
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Specop_007 · Expert Joined: Aug 12, 2004 Posts: 6267

peaker_2005 · Intermediate Crude Joined: Sep 02, 2005 Posts: 742

Think about this one for a second. Somebody NEEDS to be around to explain WHY this happened to try and prevent a similar mistake.

Leanan · News Editor Joined: May 20, 2004 Posts: 4575

Someone from Pittsburgh, PA has Art Monk for an avatar? On Super Bowl weekend? What, couldn't find a picture of The Bus? Wink

Seems like anyone who doesn't believe we'll just switch to ethanol and continue on our merry way is considered a doomer. IME, there aren't a lot of people on this site who think it's absolutely all going to end horribly and fast. Personally, I suspect it will end horribly but slow. The Easter Islanders continued for 50 years after they realized the trees were running out and life as they knew it was coming to an end. They made some changes to adapt, which turned out to be not enough. But that was 50 years when life continued more or less as usual. The cannibalism came later. Fifty years - that might be the rest of my natural life.

In any case, there's plenty of time to kill yourself later, if you decide to go that route. Why do anything rash? Who knows, maybe life without oil will be better. Nigerians, among the poorest people in the world, are the happiest.

As Razoanne points out, it's the ones who don't see it coming who are most likely to kill themselves. That's what happened during the Great Depression. It was the people who thought the Wall St. party would go on forever who ended up jumping out of highrise windows.

rushdy · Heavy Crude Joined: Nov 21, 2005 Posts: 120

I wouldn't describe myself as a doomer, but some of my views are what you might call doomerish.

I would never consider killing myself, because even in a terrible world, a fast collapse, and all sorts of other nastiness (if that happens) - I would make sure I lived.

I think a lot of doomers delight more in the idea of flushing the planetary toilet and getting rid of all the turds, than the idea of dieing themselves.

Ludi

Well, that's just dopey. I know I'm going to die someday, possibly some horrible painful way like from cancer, or a stroke. Why not kill myself now? If that's the kind of logic you're using "I think I might or probably will die some horrible way, in any case, I'll certainly die" why shouldn't we all,not just doomers, kill ourselves? I mean, we really are ALL doomed.

Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow you may die.
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Aaron

What an ugly little post.

We normally don't allow calls for people to commit crimes around here, but this is really a philosophical question. (Albeit pretty poorly stated)

So it ends up being a rather clever method of side-stepping our rules.

Free speech & all that...

And I can assure you I'll be defending this post of mine against some of our Mods who would probably delete this whole thread otherwise.

At the end of the day this post says much more about the poster... than anything else.

Not the worst post here by any standard... but it's in the ballpark.
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hotsacks · Heavy Crude Joined: May 13, 2005 Posts: 455

smallpoxgirl · Moderator Joined: Nov 08, 2004 Posts: 6359

The real sad part of this thread is the point that Chuckmak is actually trying to make. That the possible outcomes for the world that doomers have expressed are so horrible and depressing that everyone should become a cassandra to avoid having to think about them. A truly juvenile arguement.

AmericanEmpire · Heavy Crude Joined: Jul 14, 2005 Posts: 497

If the future turns out to be as bleak as I think it will I might very well off myself. Facing a life of misery is not very appealing.

I'm just not ready to do it, yet. At the very least I'm gonna stick around to say I told you so to the idiots who didn't listen to me when I explained peak oil.

Something tells me I won't get much joy in having been right though. Sad

Aaron

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Novus · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Jun 21, 2005 Posts: 1741

The question I think this thread raises is how close to home is the Malthusian delema of PO related die-off. It is all well and fine to talk about die-off post peak but even here it is tabu to discuss die-off on a personel level. Even among the hardest doomers there is a sence that die-off will be for someone else. It will be in overpopulated third world or in the densely packed first world cities. Exactly who will survive and who will die is a very touchy subject here.

On Easter Island one of the ways they coped was by developing the cult of the Bird Man. Men from the island would run down a steep cliff and then swim through shark infested waters to a large rock about a mile from shore. The first man to return with a bird's egg from the rock would become King for a year. The contest was virtually suicidal and many men died trying to claim the title of bird man.

Has anyone ever read the short story the Lottery. It is about an over populated future where people bet their lives for money.

ravensburg · Tar Sands Joined: Jul 06, 2005 Posts: 47

From the point of a doomer (I think I am at least) some of us still see a future for this world. To end it all now would be admitting defeat before being able to put up a fight. We have a duty to the world to try and steer its course in the best path that we can see, to warn people of the impending crises. A lot of people out their make fun of us and tell me that the world will just keep going as it is right now. If it does and it looks like things are not going to change I will take you up on your suggestion. Things are going to get bad and things are going to change, it is up to us to make sure the same mistakes are not made again. That some of this world somehow survives mankind. This will be brought up to but I do not see myself living much past the collapse and I have no plans for such. My hate for mankind and what it has done to this world has jaded me and my existence would do nothing to help this world after that point. I will be here as long as I think that my actions are contributing to the betterment of society or that in the near future I can do something that is worthwhile. The world will someday no longer need people like me and that is when I will leave it, when my continued existence is no longer the best for the whole. My end now would free up resources yes but they would be consumed none the less and thus my end at this point would be meaningless.

My turn to ask a question, you see things going on like they are now. When will it be enough? After the world lies under nothing but asphalt, when the last tree is burned, when cows and humans are the last things left on this world. More and more is being destroyed to support the way of life we have chosen. I am more concerned if we find more cheap and abundant energy of what will be left of this world.