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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:26 pm    Post subject: Professional athletes and Peak Oil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Folks,

Professional athletes make millions of dollars, much more money than teachers, doctors, and the police, how will they react in the future when peak oil affects sporting events?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Professional athletes and Peak Oil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

You mean how will the spoilt prima donnas react when the greater populace doesn't give a Fark about them kicking an inflated sheeps bladder about a bit of grass?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Professional athletes and Peak Oil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

rogerhb wrote:
You mean how will the spoilt prima donnas react when the greater populace doesn't give a Fark about them kicking an inflated sheeps bladder about a bit of grass?

Yep, rogerhb, that is exactly what I meant! I would love to see the look on their faces!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: Professional athletes and Peak Oil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I think professional sports will still exist on a small scale, which is what I would like. I'm sick of the commercialization of sports especially at events like the Super Bowl. No more TO and other assholes holding out for more money. They'll have to play because they like it.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:33 am    Post subject: Re: Professional athletes and Peak Oil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Now this is a way out of left field idea, but why don't people play sports themselves, the good old village soccer or cricket team?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: Professional athletes and Peak Oil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

As long as beer and auto companies continue to pour billions of advertising dollars into this, and as long as local governments subsidize this business by building new stadiums and giving tax abatements, and as long as there is an ESPN to cover the games, there will continue to be overpaid athletes to take advantage of the situation.

The weak link is the advertising money. I wonder what catastrophe would have to happen before miller, coors and Anheuser Busch decided to cut back on their advertising expenditures? My guess is that if the economy went to hell, they would actually increase their advertising so as to try to increase their sales.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:50 am    Post subject: Re: Professional athletes and Peak Oil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Do you think if TSHTF people will need encouragement to drink? Certainly not in the UK.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:58 am    Post subject: Re: Professional athletes and Peak Oil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

people will tend to watch MORE sports when things are going to hell, just to get break from how crap things are.

there'll definetly be less money for the athletes though and it may be that they go back to earning actually slightly less than the average worker, like it used to be.

amazing though, a premiership footballer - an average not particulary great player - usually is paid around £30,000 a week. a top class player will be on more than £100,000 a week. a WEEK. i get £28,000 a YEAR.

disgusting.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: Professional athletes and Peak Oil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If the doomers are right then we will return to barbarism.

I look forward to watching the gladiators in my local amphitheatre.

If I'm hard-up for cash then I shall indenture myself into a gladiatorial school. Some training, a few free meals and then run through with a sword by someone who knew what they were doing. Still, it was a free meal ticket.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:49 am    Post subject: Re: Professional athletes and Peak Oil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Gladiators fought in colliseums. Ampitheatres were for plays I believe. I wanna see the horse races. How about some good ol' executions?!?!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:31 am    Post subject: Re: Professional athletes and Peak Oil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

rogerhb wrote:
You mean how will the spoilt prima donnas react when the greater populace doesn't give a Fark about them kicking an inflated sheeps bladder about a bit of grass?
I disagree with your assessment. Throughout human history MANY if not most civilizations placed a premium on entertainment. Whether it's gladiator stadiums, Kabuki theatres, or Medieval faires...people liked to be entertained and were willing to pay good money for it. Actually admission to gladiator stadiums were free but obviously the government must of spent a lot of the taxpayers money for it's maintenance.

However there is a definite likelyhood that when PO hits these professional athletes will take a salary cut. I think everybody will be taking a salary cut when PO hits with the exception of clever investors who can find a way to profit from the changing economy.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Professional athletes and Peak Oil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

You're right, cube, athletics and other forms of entertainment, of some sort, will always be around. Keep in mind, though, that the current pro/elite sports system in very energy intensive. Think of all of the travel associated with competitions. In the US, sports teams travel across the country several times a week. Olympic level athletes travel from continent to continent to compete. And then there are the fans that drive to the events...

Athletes will most likely take pay cuts, if their sports aren't outright disbanded on the elite level. Eventually, sports will become much more of a local event, with locals competing against other locals in cross-town rivalries. But, hey, I've always believed that participating in sports is better than watching sports.

One last side note: watching the overpaid athletes come down to Earth won't be nearly as satisfying as when reality slaps the Hollywood elite right across the face. Too bad that won't be caught on film.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Professional athletes and Peak Oil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

mekrob wrote:
Gladiators fought in colliseums. Ampitheatres were for plays I believe. I wanna see the horse races. How about some good ol' executions?!?!


There was only one Coliseum and that was the Flavian Amphitheatre in Rome. Yes, now called The Coliseum.

Amphitheatres were used for everything.

Horse racing was in a circus, such as the Circus Maximus.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Professional athletes and Peak Oil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Mechler wrote:
You're right, cube, athletics and other forms of entertainment, of some sort, will always be around. Keep in mind, though, that the current pro/elite sports system in very energy intensive. Think of all of the travel associated with competitions. In the US, sports teams travel across the country several times a week. Olympic level athletes travel from continent to continent to compete. And then there are the fans that drive to the events...
I'm no businessman but my guess tells me the primary expense in running a pro-sports team is not the cost of transportation but instead paying these athletes their ridiculous salaries. I do not think sports will be "localized" due to PO.

However PO will take a bite out of Joe Sixpack's disposable income. When the public has less money to spend on overpriced tickets these prima donna athletes will have to take a pay cut.

One of the things that I have learned is to never underestimate the stupidity of mainstream society. A good example of such foolishness is the public financing of sports stadiums which BTW are privately owned. I cannot think of any other private business venture off the top of my head right now where the government literally pays for the capitol cost of a private business. Rolling Eyes

That's like a tycoon planning to open up a steel mill and asking the government to tax it's citizens to help pay for the cost while he keeps all the profits and ownership of the business to himself. We all know that big business quite often bribes government to pass favourable laws but even thats pushing the limits.

Sports stadiums/entertainment are a special class of industry where the rules of economics and common sense don't seem to apply.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Professional athletes and Peak Oil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Perhaps being an athlete will become something someone does besides their regular job. But as long as there are people, they will want to compete in sports games. The olympics were started thousands of years before oil came along, it isn't required for sports to exist.
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