Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:52 am Post subject: Global Warming is a Lie
Truth Is Inconvenient by George Giles
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Al Gore’s movie An Inconvenient Truth opens nationwide this week. The movie purports to enlighten the benighted masses about the global calamity facing humanity as a result of global warming.
Unfortunately, for Al Gore Truth is Inconvenient because as we get closer to the truth about global warming it will be inconvenient that his "truth" will be revealed as a mendacious distortion of unrelated scientific facts. The Gore program for socialism, which has lost repeatedly in the polling place, now seeks victory through hysteria via worldwide U.N. mediated regulation, and that is An Inconvenient Truth.
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:01 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming is a Lie
The Global Warming Denial Lobby _________________ "Thank you for attending the oil age. We're going to scrape what we can out of these tar pits in Alberta and then shut down the machines and turn out the lights. Goodnight." - seldom_seen
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:22 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming is a Lie
Think star wars, thank reagan, thank republican.
The gore family also runs a restaurant, no?
Oh and BTW the election was stolen - twice.
IF Squandering billions is for democrats then I suppose squandering trillions is for republicans.
TJ was a hypocrite with many good ideas.
GW ran 3 companies into bankruptcy and now it seems he intends to do the same thing to the USA.
GW said the main reason his admin could not comply with kyoto was because he did not want to be the president who presided over an economic crisis as in - we cant do it!!
When he said this he actually seemed to have genuine regret about the matter.
Yet tell that to all the mayors and governors in the US and world wide who are doing their best to bring their individual areas into compliance with the treaty.
Go assimilate your disinformation elsewhere.
Oh thats right - you did not speak a word on your own now did you?
Helpless, hopeless and grasping for something anything but the truth.
I remember in the 'creationists vs. darwinists' debate, the creationists would always pull out all this scientific sounding mumbo-jumbo about the fossil record, falsification of carbon dating, etc. Using terms like Navier-Stokes equation and Le Chatellier's Equilibrium sound nice and fancy, but do absolutely nothing to advance the 'man made global warming is fake' position... the data showing correlations to industrial human society and climate change is just too strong. The majority of the (credible) scientific community has accepted man-made global warming as fact and has now moved on to the more important task of coming up with solutions. Even the pentagon has briefed Bush personally on the dangers of climate change.
Please- end the nonsensical ramblings about how global warming isn't real and make yourself part of the solution, or get out of the way. _________________ "If you're always looking for the invisible hand to guide you, you will find that the invisible hand often gives you the invisible finger." - some guy on CNBC
Joined: Oct 15, 2005 Posts: 1634 Location: Portland, Oregon
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming is a Lie
People like Tommy are so scared. You can feel it coming through their prolonged denials...trying anything to stave off the reality of what we and this planet are going through. It is easier to deny polar ice caps melting, increased hurricaines, tsunamis, desertification, depleted resources, mass extinctions of mammals, reptiles and avians.
Yes it is easier to deny almost universal concensus of scientific thought than to have to face what is truly happening. Because to truly see what is happening means things have to change...drastically. And denialists don't want change of the staus quo- they want to continue the forever infinite growth model that has made them so rich, comfortable and lazy.
They fear environmentalists, Greenies, socialists or anyone who would take away their God given right to 3000 square foot homes, a Ford Expedition, cheap fuel and nearby shopping malls that have everything you need (and don't need).
I can feel the fear coming from the denialists...its creeping into the intensity of their language...it used to be mockery and now its strident arguments that eschew fact. The real world (nature) is closing in on us first worlders and the denialists don't like it one bit.
It reminds me of the Middle aged divorced man with a beer gut still longing for his days as the high school quarterback...back when everything was simple and you knew your place in the world.
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:14 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming is a Lie
TommyJefferson wrote:
Every expert he brings forth in this evidentiary proceeding is on the tax payer’s dole, either directly like NASA employees, or indirectly as recipients of NSF grants for research. As such they should be treated as scoundrels selling snake oil under the legalistic façade of academic respectability.
Funding research in support of ensuring the 'general welfare' is surely one of the best uses of tax dollars. Relying on research funded by self-promoting corporations while selectively ignoring publicly funded research is surely dangerous folly.
I've expressed this point here before. The general population cannot all be scientists to determine the truth. I believe that it is in our best interest, as a nation, to fund unbiased scientific research in areas where industries have such a huge stake in the status quo or political favor. If the results of that research contradict similar research in the private sector, all the more reason to question the private sector results and less reason to discredit the publicly funded results.
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:14 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming is a Lie
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This movie is a just another shameless, self-promoting, dishonest and mendacious attempt at securing more taxpayers dollars which at best will squander billions on science without results (think star wars) or possibly a cruel lie that will lead to the death of millions
through environmental mismanagement at its’ worst.
We can’t absolutely proof it, as there may be anomalies in the model, so let’s not take the chance of inducing results that could lead to the death of millions. Instead we will ignore a large portion, (perhaps a majority), of the scientific community, save a few billions and take the chance of killing billions.
I wonder why I’m always staggered by strokes of genius!
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming is a Lie
I get the feeling that in 10 years no one will care much about global warming. As coal power plants start showing up all over the place in a desparate attemp to keep our energy intensive lifestyles going global warming will get really really bad. I find it rather pointless to debate it.
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:32 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming is a Lie
I really don't know why you bother making threads like this, take a look around, nobody is going to stop buring fossil fuels or give up on your beloved capitalism until they are absolutley forced to. _________________ "One minute I held the key, next the walls were closed on me, and I discovered that my castle stands upon pillars of salt and pillars of sand."
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:00 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming is a Lie
I can not agree with this.
The machine has won.
however I have to agree Gore is a socialist and i do not trust him.
However to believe our monstrous numbers and activities are not going to have dire effects is specious thinking to say the least. A disconnect somewhere.
WE must retreat for now.
Rise up fallen fighters;
Rise and take your stance again.
´Tis he who fight and run away
Live to fight another day.
With de heathen back dey ´pon de wall! _________________ "Crush the Cornucopians, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the women".
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:01 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming is a Lie
thuja wrote:
Yes it is easier to deny almost universal concensus of scientific thought than to have to face what is truly happening. Because to truly see what is happening means things have to change...drastically. And denialists don't want change of the staus quo- they want to continue the forever infinite growth model that has made them so rich, comfortable and lazy.
I agree totally.
If Peak Oil was not so bad in itself, we have converging environmental problems: water, fertile soil, global warming etc...
And a financial and economic system that is now skewed to making the wealthy even richer and looking increasingly vulernable to "shocks" (read deep recession or depression) from any number of sources, trade imbalances, massive debts, massive derivative speculation, wars, resource constraints, over capacity, inability to distribute productivity and income in a more equitable manner . _________________ "Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box."
-Italian Proverb
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming is a Lie
FireJack said:
Quote:
I get the feeling that in 10 years no one will care much about global warming.
10 years - I truly admire an optimist! In ten years the only thing likely to show up will be a rag tag, half starving beggar at your front door. They will probably be an ex-federal employee staggering out of the hell hole that was once called DC!
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:55 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming is a Lie
TommyJefferson wrote:
In the 1970’s Dr. Ralph Cicerone (University of Michigan) was widely promulgating a theory that ozone holes from Freon-based refrigerants were pummeling mankind with ultraviolet radiation due to questionable fluorocarbon chemistry and its subsequent extrapolation was massive skin cancer for mankind. It was clear that by the early nineties his predictions were grossly wrong. I heard the man speak first hand, and as a freshman could find the flaws in his analysis, but he retained funding for years in spite of being grossly wrong. Subsequent research determined that holes were natural, regular and harmless.
Is not this claim of his patently false? I thought it was well established the link between CFCs and ozone depletion and that the holes are only now recovering since we banned these in the 1990s. I also thought they had demonstrated increased skin cancer rates in the southern hemisphere.
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