Hoarding is exactly what the government is doing right now by filling the SPR, and frankly it's the best thing that could happen. It drives prices up. High prices encourage demand destruction. They also finance new well development. The hoarded oil gives us a buffer to fall back on once shortages become more prevalent. High prices are what we need in order to adapt to what's coming, and the sooner they happen, the better.
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: Today I Found and Ate:
i'm eating oysters from the bay tonight (I didn't harvest them, friend did). got strawberries and blueberries from the garden this afternoon. livin off the land is grand _________________ ree rah rip ram. sunofabitch godamn. hidey didey christ almighty. rah rah crap
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:45 am Post subject: Re: Today I Found and Ate:
I pulled a cattail stalk out of the marsh...peeled the outer layer like a bananna & took a bite. It was alot like a raw potato. I've heard you can also dry this out, grind it into flour & make bread from it.
I've also heard that you need to boil acorns twice before eating...does anybody know if you boil them with the shell on or off? _________________ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes.
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 9:46 am Post subject: Re: Today I Found and Ate:
I've eaten the following, here's my comments:
(1) Dandelions - green leaves - can taste bitter, if you cover them for a few hours can get out some of the bitterness;
(2) Clover leaves - edible;
(3) Pine tree bark - white inner bark is edible. Can eat raw or dry and grind into power. Not much taste;
(4) Acorns - you don't have to shell them. As mentioned earlier, the tannen will taste really bitter unless you leach it out with running water or boiling. Don't have to shell them, however, grinding them with a rock will help them leach faster. Leach them by placing them in a cloth sack and sticking in a flowing stream for a day or so, or, you can boil them and keep doing so several times. I've also been told a good way to leach them is sticking the cloth bag in your toilet water tank, although the tanning will stain the inside of your tank (haven't tried this method). Some acorns taste better than others, I don't know why.
(5) Cattails - I've never really developed a taste for them. You can eat the root and also the top part when still green;
(6) Here's two indications of an edible berry - a cerated leaf edged plant and the berry has a hypantheom (like a tomato) assuming I spelled hypantheom right;
(7) Field mice (other small rodents) - be careful for the plague! Don't carry next to your person bc of fleas which carry plague. Immediately immerse them in flowing stream to rid of fleas or throw them on the hot ashes of a fire to kill fleas. All small rodents may be cooked in the following way - heat on ashes and burn off all hair, then, open stomach with your fingers and pull out guts, cook until meat is fully cooked, eat whole, bones, brains, etc;
( This same method of cooking (on ashes) is used for fish/snakes (minus hair part obviously). With fish, though, use a rock/knife to open stomach first, finger out the guts, then slowly cook on ashes until cooked through, eat everything - head, bones, fins. If needed, boil bones or keep roasting them, they will get crunchy, edible, and digestible, have lots of nutrients inside them;
(9) Insects - the only one I've tried is a grasshopper, we threw them on coals, but you can boil them just as well. Bugs can carry parasites, so do cook them in some way, unless you have no choice, then you worry about surviving first and worry about parasites six months after you get rescued.
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:34 am Post subject: Re: Today I Found and Ate:
RonMN wrote:
I pulled a cattail stalk out of the marsh...peeled the outer layer like a bananna & took a bite. It was alot like a raw potato. I've heard you can also dry this out, grind it into flour & make bread from it.
I've also heard that you need to boil acorns twice before eating...does anybody know if you boil them with the shell on or off?
the brand new shoots down by the water are really good like cucumber. I think they came out months ago though.
seahorse, thanks for the tips. I'll bet those crunchy little kippers and tidbits are quite tasty _________________ ree rah rip ram. sunofabitch godamn. hidey didey christ almighty. rah rah crap
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject: Re: Today I Found and Ate:
On my last walk home from the bus stop thursday I walked a different way and found a ripe mulberry tree and some wild spearmint. Ate some mulberries and chewed some mint. Once i ate a big fat earthworm that had been forced out of the ground by the rain.
I memorize the location of every accessable food-bearing tree from wherever I walk. Last year I brought home hundreds of walnuts from the tree on the route from my bus stop. They were lying on or near the sidewalk, I just bent over and stuffed my pockets as I went by. _________________ The knowledge to survive post peak will not come from our laboratories. It will come from our museums.
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Today I Found and Ate:
On my hikes this spring around the Bay Area, I nibbled on Miner's Lettuce. There's a ton that grows along the trail in shady areas here, not sure what other parts of the country it grows in. It got its name because the old miners in the gold rush would use it to avoid scurvy, since it was a great source of Vitamin C.
White oak probably has the best acorns, because it has the least tannin (I've heard that you hardly need to leach it). You can identify it by the leaves, which have rounded lobes instead of sharp ones, like other oaks.
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 10:16 pm Post subject: Re: Today I Found and Ate:
Speaking of scurvy, add pine needles to your list. Boil green pine needles in water to make a tea. They have lots of vitamin c. I have done this, no real taste to me, but the vitamin content is good year round.
Supposedly, boiling walnut leaves to make a tea is good for ridding the body of parasites. Haven't tried that one.
Also, cedars and most evergreens are anti-microbials, so you can use the green cedar needles to clean hands and the body even without water.
The white powder on aspen trees is a natural yeast, can be used when making breads or anything needing yeast.
There is a common cactus out west that is flat and grows a purple fruit - can't remember the name, too tired right now. Fairly common. The purple fruit is edible. I really like the taste (be careful of the needles and rub them all off before eating. Can use cactus as a sun screen.
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: Today I Found and Ate:
seahorse wrote:
There is a common cactus out west that is flat and grows a purple fruit - can't remember the name, too tired right now. Fairly common. The purple fruit is edible. I really like the taste (be careful of the needles and rub them all off before eating. Can use cactus as a sun screen.
prickly pears.
the big round leaves are also chopped and boiled, and called "nopales."
we used to heat the prickly pear friut in hot springs in new mexico.
yucca fruit can be eaten too, don't remember how.
i remember liking fiddleheads, new fern leaves, when i was a kid. but i think they must taste better fresh. they sell then at some fancy markets around here and they are tasteless and bitter.
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: Today I Found and Ate:
Carrie wrote:
On my hikes this spring around the Bay Area, I nibbled on Miner's Lettuce. There's a ton that grows along the trail in shady areas here, not sure what other parts of the country it grows in. It got its name because the old miners in the gold rush would use it to avoid scurvy, since it was a great source of Vitamin C.
White oak probably has the best acorns, because it has the least tannin (I've heard that you hardly need to leach it). You can identify it by the leaves, which have rounded lobes instead of sharp ones, like other oaks.
we were poking around the cliffs in Carpenteria on the Central Coast of Calif. and found what looked like cabbage-family plants--maybe naturalized kale or brussel sprouts? do you know what they are? _________________ ree rah rip ram. sunofabitch godamn. hidey didey christ almighty. rah rah crap
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ree rah rip ram. sunofabitch godamn. hidey didey christ almighty. rah rah crap 
This same method of cooking (on ashes) is used for fish/snakes (minus hair part obviously). With fish, though, use a rock/knife to open stomach first, finger out the guts, then slowly cook on ashes until cooked through, eat everything - head, bones, fins. If needed, boil bones or keep roasting them, they will get crunchy, edible, and digestible, have lots of nutrients inside them;
like cucumber. I think they came out months ago though.
