Getting quite frightened...

rexxz · Tar Sands Joined: Jun 27, 2006 Posts: 29

..about the effects of peak oil. I just found out about it, and I've been on such a paranoid trip, I can't even begin to describe. I am sure this is normal, but I don't know what to think recently... what am I going to do? I don't know how to plan my future for this, or if I can do much for the best interest of my friends and loved ones. It's beginning to make me feel sick to my stomach.

Doly · Expert Joined: Dec 03, 2004 Posts: 4031

Breathe deeply, calm down, and start realising there is actually a lot of things you can do. The Planning for the Future forum is for people like you.

If you care to explain a little more about your personal circumstances, lots of people here can give you personalised advice.

rexxz · Tar Sands Joined: Jun 27, 2006 Posts: 29

Hah, thank you for such a quick reply. I've been restless the past few days thinking about it. I never would have guessed that something like this could happen during my time, but I suppose reality has a way of dealing with a person.

Well, I have been making plans to move to Houston, where I intended on persuing a degree for Audio Engineering. I am not sure if this is for the best now, really. And what's more, I planned on moving in with my girlfriend, who I absolutely love and intend on marrying. Before her, I wouldn't have really been so emotionally affected by this I think, but now all I want is for us to have a secure future together, one we can live in and one our children and future generations can find peace in.

I've just been so down lately about this, and I think I need something to give me hope.

Ancien_Opus · Heavy Crude Joined: Jul 21, 2005 Posts: 148

Move to Fort McMurray instead. Get a job with Syncrude. Learn to fish & hunt moose.

MacG · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 1169

I recognize the reaction. First you get the jolt, then do some frantic reading. Then depression is close. After about 3-12 months it get easier. Then it get really horrible again, but on kind of a deeper nerve.

The possible fallout have the potential to be a terrible mess of suffering and devastation.

What freaks me out the most is all this denial everywhere combined with the historical record of human action in response to shortages. You see, the way we are hardwired by evolution since millions of years, the instinctive reaction upon threatening starvation is to try to kill some competition.

rexxz · Tar Sands Joined: Jun 27, 2006 Posts: 29

NeoPeasant · Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:25 am Post subject: Re: Getting quite frightened...

rexxz · Tar Sands Joined: Jun 27, 2006 Posts: 29

I think my largest concern, though, isn't really of losing all of these nice little commodities that my life has to offer right now. My biggest, and worst fear is being unable to even survive in a post-peak oil environment. All I want is to retain some degree of stability, nothing more. And of course to do as much as I possibly can to improve the situation as a whole. But right now, I am not having much hope for this.

I fear that because of my financial situation right now(jobless, 18 years old, no credit, no experience, no education) will only make things so much more worse than they can be.

Ancien_Opus · Heavy Crude Joined: Jul 21, 2005 Posts: 148

Why not Fort McMurray? Just read this!

With more than $120 billion worth of capital works projects on the books for the next decade in the public and private sector in Alberta, employers will need to fill 400,000 new jobs by 2010. But even with special programs to employ seniors, aboriginal youth and foreign workers, the provincial government predicts a staggering human-capital deficit of 100,000 people over 10 years. As a result, most industries face worker shortages, inflationary wages or chronic poaching. A January survey by the Canadian Federation of Independent Business found that more than 80% of small-business owners in Alberta have had difficulty finding workers--and that more than half were coping by hiring under-qualified individuals. A third had simply accepted reduced staff as a fact of life. "We not only have a skill shortage," says Sam Shaw, president of Northern Alberta Institute of Technology in Edmonton. "We have a people shortage in Alberta."

From Canadianbusiness.com

rexxz · Tar Sands Joined: Jun 27, 2006 Posts: 29

I can't quite tell if you're being serious or not; please elaborate more?

Ancien_Opus · Heavy Crude Joined: Jul 21, 2005 Posts: 148

There is nothing you can do about the oil supply and demand situation.
Just make the best of skills you have and acquire those skills that will be needed in the future. Alberta offers you the opportunity to work your way through oil depletion and acquire several very useful skills for what comes afterward. If you're frugal you can save enough cash to make it very worthwhile. One young man was quoted recently on 60 minutes as earning $120,000/year. Good money when you consider that the Canadian dollar is darn close to parity with the US dollar.

It really does not matter to you on a personal level that Alberta tar sand will not really change this situation. What does matter is that this energy source can and will be exploited, so you may as well benefit if you are young enough to take advantage of that fact. This development will proceed so you might as well hitch your self to a wagon that will still be functioning in ten years.

You'll not need central A/C in Alberta but the 6 months of winter like weather is pretty rough to deal with.

rexxz · Tar Sands Joined: Jun 27, 2006 Posts: 29

Seems reasonable... but since I am so unexperienced in moving out of any sorts, I don't know how I would even begin to go there. For one, I need money to do that, which I have none. And I don't know where I'd go over there! Right now I know I want to move to Houston at least for a short while... What I do after that is completely beyond me though. I just know I want to be the best prepared as I possibly can be.

NTBKtrader · Intermediate Crude Joined: Oct 19, 2004 Posts: 591

Engineering is a great trade, audio engineering doesn't seem that lucrative nor useful post peak, just my humble opinion. Texas property is cheap especially out west, maybe buy a few acres near a small sustainable town. Acreage is $500 an acre and lower in some areas. The planning forum is a very huge well of knowledge so troll there for info.

rexxz · Tar Sands Joined: Jun 27, 2006 Posts: 29

virgincrude · Heavy Crude Joined: Mar 09, 2006 Posts: 428

Rexxzi, over here I am a day behind you guys. Wonder if that'll make any difference as to when the crap hits? Anyway, just keep reading, eventually your alarm level will subside a bit, but I really can't imagine how I would feel if I were as young as you and just found out about Peak Oil, I just feel for you.

I just can't help wondering, as I read so many posts from people like you (no money, afraid for the future) when Americans will start migrating. At the moment you're building walls against the Mexicans, who will surely arrive in greater numbers now that Cantarelle is depleting so fast. Here in Europe we have boat loads of Sub Saharan Africans arriving at our shores every day. We used to buy them and ship them ourselves, now they come willingly and pay for the trip in even worse conditions than the slavers. And they work in the same slave conditions. Imagine.

Could it soon be boat loads of WASPs?