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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:54 am    Post subject: Nothing is happening Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Nothing is happening.

I see the same lines of migrating SUVs, the same hideous shopping strips a la Kunstler, the same knock-down and pave-over of forests and meadows for rows and swirls of identical oversized houses.

The same glittering seas of cars gathered at major consumption nodes.

The same endless suburbs growing more endless.

The same bottomless spew of predictable, manipulative hash from our "leaders."

The same lewd and garish "reality shows" cluttering TV---just one step away now from outright freak shows and public executions.

The same ongoing mass extinction of earth's infinitely precious endowment of plant and animal species.

In response to Peak Oil, Peak Water, Peak Health Care, deforestation, global warming, overpopulation, fiscal lunacy, runaway militarism, and a kind of creeping fascism, we are doing pretty much what we've been doing all along---NOTHING!

Nothing is happening.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:58 am    Post subject: Re: Nothing is happening Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Road widening
Airport expansions
air conditioning unit sales...sigh.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: Nothing is happening Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The down side is the longer we go w/o change the hard the fall will be. THATS what scares me!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:07 am    Post subject: Re: Nothing is happening Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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In response to Peak Oil, Peak Water, Peak Health Care, deforestation, global warming, overpopulation, fiscal lunacy, runaway militarism, and a kind of creeping fascism, we are doing pretty much what we've been doing all along---NOTHING.


shhhhh.... don't wake them up... thay are sleeping.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:17 am    Post subject: Re: Nothing is happening Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

What else would you expect at peak? Peak cluelessness!

For the rest of us, life becomes surreal.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:17 am    Post subject: Re: Nothing is happening Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Think of a base jumper. As he leaps off a cliff nothing is happening, he's just floating, flying through the air. The ground is rushing in on him, and fast. Before it's too late he wails on the rip cord and the chute breaks open and jerks him back and he starts a controlled descent and a soft landing on to the ground with a big smile on his face.

Now think of another base jumper who falls off the same cliff without a parachute. Not only does he not have a parachute, he's so inibriated from petro-chemicals that he doesn't even know he fell off the cliff. The ground is rushing in on him. Yet nothing is happening...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:25 am    Post subject: Re: Nothing is happening Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Heineken wrote:
Nothing is happening.

I see the same lines of migrating SUVs, the same hideous shopping strips a la Kunstler, the same knock-down and pave-over of forests and meadows for rows and swirls of identical oversized houses.

The same glittering seas of cars gathered at major consumption nodes.

The same endless suburbs growing more endless.

The same bottomless spew of predictable, manipulative hash from our "leaders."

The same lewd and garish "reality shows" cluttering TV---just one step away now from outright freak shows and public executions.

In response to Peak Oil, Peak Water, Peak Health Care, deforestation, global warming, overpopulation, fiscal lunacy, runaway militarism, and a kind of creeping fascism, we are doing pretty much what we've been doing all along---NOTHING.

Nothing is happening.


What can we do. You think America will hand over the keys to the SUV's and go moped? You think China and India will decide not to industrialize and become the energy hogs they are gunna become.

Till tough times dictate tough measures, till the government mandates change, there will be none. The sheeple of the US are trained to scoot through life and pay taxes. The Sheeple tend to leave policy and dicision making to the elected officials. They are more conserned with keeping up with the Jones and one-up-manship 'anything you have I can have better'.

The sheeple will indeed give up eating out, entertainment, even eating at all before they will relinguish their status symbols, the SUVs, the 2nd home in the hamptons, the private jet and golf courses.

It almost seems like pple just dont want to know anymore. To consumed in their own lives to worry about you or tomorrow.

If your expecting a new world where we wake up and start taking lunches to work, giving more to the community and generally assessing the future world of our children, well, I think you might wanna go get a few snickers bars cause your gunna be here awhile. Go ahead, take the SUV to the corner store. Ride in style while you can.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:35 am    Post subject: Re: Nothing is happening Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

My own personal litmus test is the neighborhood newspaper delivery person, who continues to deliver newspapers in a Hummer H2. As long as I see the Hummer used to deliver newspapers, I know people aren't changing behavior.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:02 am    Post subject: Re: Nothing is happening Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

zberry wrote:
My own personal litmus test is the neighborhood newspaper delivery person, who continues to deliver newspapers in a Hummer H2. As long as I see the Hummer used to deliver newspapers, I know people aren't changing behavior.


Ah, the psychology of previous investment, one of the major culprits underlying our hopeless stasis. The paper boy can't afford to give up that stupid Hummer---it will be prized only from his dead, news-ink-stained hands.

I used to deliver newspapers, long ago, but did so on my own two feet.

One of the most stupid, revolting sights I ever saw was an enormous Hummer covered with American flags, driven by a fat redneck who glared challengingly at me as he clambered out of it in the Food Lion parking lot.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:04 am    Post subject: Re: Nothing is happening Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Nope nothing is happening, while the biodiesel enthusiasts run about on the tank of unleaded they just brought from shell.

The Titanic is just too massive to turn, even if anyone wanted to. I like the BASE jumper analogy, except I'm afraid for the first jumper, pulling your ripcord 2 seconds before impact does not a safe jump make.

Also if we were a jumper, we don't even realize theres' a cord that needs pulling!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:09 am    Post subject: Re: Nothing is happening Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Battle_Scarred_Galactico wrote:
Pulling your ripcord 2 seconds before impact does not a safe jump make.



That's a superlative analogy; I'll remember it. Yep, that sums it all up beautifully.

My own analogy is giving up cigarettes after learning you have advanced lung cancer.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:23 am    Post subject: Re: Nothing is happening Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The West is chugging along as normal ... not good, but perhaps we can power down when required.

However China worries me ... it is a monster devouring resources as fast as it can find them.

That particular train wreck will be spectacular ... but will it take other countries with it?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:34 am    Post subject: Re: Nothing is happening Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

SoothSayer wrote:
The West is chugging along as normal ... not good, but perhaps we can power down when required.

However China worries me ... it is a monster devouring resources as fast as it can find them.

That particular train wreck will be spectacular ... but will it take other countries with it?



It's not just a matter of powering down, given that the environmental damage we've done, incuding runaway global warming, is irreparable.

How do we feed, water, and clothe an exploding population while powering down? Not likely.

No, we're on a collision course nothing can avert.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: Nothing is happening Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

As I commute to work in my little Scion XB, I can't help but notice that most of the other commuters can barely comprehend the fact that they are driving, let alone the more complex issues of Peak Oil, Global Warming, erc...

The self-styled, idealized visions of Americans standing for freedom and being industrious and resourceful may have applied to another generation, but not this one.

Expect no proactive planning or preparations for anything. It will be nothing but overreactions to problems beyond repair. It's become part of our culture.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:43 am    Post subject: Re: Nothing is happening Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Heineken wrote:
SoothSayer wrote:
The West is chugging along as normal ... not good, but perhaps we can power down when required.

However China worries me ... it is a monster devouring resources as fast as it can find them.

That particular train wreck will be spectacular ... but will it take other countries with it?



It's not just a matter of powering down, given that the environmental damage we've done, incuding runaway global warming, is irreparable.

How do we feed, water, and clothe an exploding population while powering down? Not likely.

No, we're on a collision course nothing can avert.


After in-depth analysis I can only say ...


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