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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:00 am    Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I think folks will enjoy this site and learn a lot about bullet penetration.

As the guy says "shooting stuff is fun". Hollywood notwithstanding.

link: http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/theboxotruth.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:30 am    Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

You can get a holster to carry a gun on about any part of your body you would desire. Under the arm like the Secret Service and detecive movies, hip, front of the wait, small of the back, drop leg, and ankle holsters.

Personally I like drop leg holsters myself.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Heineken, small of the back holsters are very useful IMHO, i personally don´t use them too much because i´m located in a warm place and to keep it concealed you need a jacket, however they are very confortable and handy.
This is one i like very much


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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The Reminton 870 if a very relisble platform. I have an "Express Turkey Special" with screw in chokes. I use it for everything from rabbits to deer. At around $260, its a great bargain.

Another firearm that I could not do without is a quality .22 rifle. Cheap ammo, relitively quite, and very accurate within reasonable range, it could (and has) filled the cooking pot.

Of course there are other weapons for concealled carry and to keep the zombies at a distance. Everyong should spend time investigating those and which ones they can afford.


Lately I've been thinking real hard about getting an airgun for just that task. For the price of 1 10/22 I could get a decent airgun and a boatload of ammo. For rabbit and squirrel that seems like just the ticket.


No one hardly ever considers using a high-quality air gun, but they should, and for the reasons you listed. There is no better "stealth" gun to put a little protein in the pot or solve those nagging varmit problems without alerting the neighbors.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Any recommendations for a handgun for a female living one block away from Detroit (and a bad area of Detroit, might I add)?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Any recommendations for a handgun for a female living one block away from Detroit (and a bad area of Detroit, might I add)?


Is said female of small frame or large? Recoil sensitive or not? On a budget?

For an "average" lady who is slightly recoil sensitive I would say maybe something in 380 or 9mm. If recoil isnt a problem .45. A .357 bridges both in a sense that you can use .38 Special loads for fun shooting and step up to a .357 Magnum load for social engagements so to speak. I would have no problems with .38 Special for defense either. Problem is with a .357 your limited to a wheelgun, but S&W just released the 327 series which is an 8 shot .357. Its a slick lookin peice, and I surely wouldnt feel undergunned with 8 rounds of .357 Mag and a speed loader.

I personally tend to really lean towards 1 of 2 calibers. Either .45 or 9mm. Reason being ammo is everywhere and bulk ammo is "cheap" (If any ammo is cheap these days). All these other newfangled calibers like the .40, 357 Sig, 10mm etc etc seem like solutions looking for a problem that doesnt exist. And its quite nice to be able to buy a box of cheap ammo to plink with at the range. There is no substitute for experience. Not newfangled calibers or expensive firearms. The only thing that makes a person a better shot is to shoot.

So I would say find a place, if you can, that rents pistols. To start I would say try a S&W MP, Springfield XD, Sig 226 and a Glock.

Start with a 9mm and if thats no problem stgep up to a 45.

My personal social engagements pistol is a Sig P229, 9mm.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Heineken, small of the back holsters are very useful IMHO, i personally don´t use them too much because i´m located in a warm place and to keep it concealed you need a jacket, however they are very confortable and handy.
This is one i like very much



That's a beaut, eXpat. Thanks to all who have steered me toward this type of holster. I think it would be ideal for my needs, since concealment isn't a concern of mine at all.

I found one exactly like it here

http://www.gunaccessories.com/Galco/SOBSmallofBackHolster.asp
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:29 pm    Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I'll be in the market for a holster as soon as I decide on which .45 acp handgun I'll be packing. I'll ask for help here!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Check out the Galco site linked above, Rogo. They have holsters for many makes of handguns. Looks like quality stuff to me.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:22 pm    Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Homesteader wrote:
I think folks will enjoy this site and learn a lot about bullet penetration.

As the guy says "shooting stuff is fun". Hollywood notwithstanding.

link: http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/theboxotruth.htm


If you want a target that will really tell you what kind of mojo your firearm and ammo has, get some bowling pins.

Those suckers are hard to hurt.

The bowling pin test is where the .357 really shines.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:32 pm    Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Check out the Galco site linked above, Rogo. They have holsters for many makes of handguns. Looks like quality stuff to me.


Checking it out, thanks Heineken. I'm a lefty so we'll see what they have for those of us that shoot with the wrong hand. Cool

They have lefty holsters on that site, great! Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:50 pm    Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I bought quite a few things from www.gunaccessories.com Heineken, in my experience, good quality and very fast delivery. Enjoy your new hoster ! Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:40 am    Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Thanks, that's a definite "buy"! Pricey, but you get what you pay for.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:02 am    Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Phoeberose wrote:
Any recommendations for a handgun for a female living one block away from Detroit (and a bad area of Detroit, might I add)?


Get a Heckler and Koch .45
Oh, and get a shotgun for your house.
Also tell the last person out of Motor City to turn out the lights.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:33 am    Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Defense (THE gun thread) Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Phoeberose wrote:
Any recommendations for a handgun for a female living one block away from Detroit (and a bad area of Detroit, might I add)?


I'll echo Specop, though will add two that are on the lower recoil side;

- Bersa Thunder 380: light, quality workmanship, easy to use and clean, can be carried concealed (with permit), low recoil, low cost, ammo abounds.

- FEG PA-63 (9x18mm): Same as above, though this is a military surplus handgun and is very inexpensive right now.

Always get trained on how to handle such a firearm, and store it in a safe manner.
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