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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 2:06 am    Post subject: Re: I just taped aluminum foil to some of my windows Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Loki wrote:
I seriously doubt it. Who are they trying to appeal to? Liberals who absolutely loath the man and are already convinced that he's a moron? Conservatives who would be appalled that he's reading a novel by a pointy headed atheistic Frog? Moderates who've never heard of Camus and couldn't care less anyways? Sorry, but your explanation makes no sense. Not everything is a conspiracy.

For the effect. It leaves people wondering. Look how you've rationalized it out. So it must be true. I listened to a 10 minute spot on NPR explaining the basic story line of the book and why he would read it. It's working very well.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 2:17 am    Post subject: Re: I just taped aluminum foil to some of my windows Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

jbrown wrote:
Loki wrote:
I seriously doubt it. Who are they trying to appeal to? Liberals who absolutely loath the man and are already convinced that he's a moron? Conservatives who would be appalled that he's reading a novel by a pointy headed atheistic Frog? Moderates who've never heard of Camus and couldn't care less anyways? Sorry, but your explanation makes no sense. Not everything is a conspiracy.

For the effect. It leaves people wondering. Look how you've rationalized it out. So it must be true.


All righty. Makes perfect sense now. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: I just taped aluminum foil to some of my windows Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Books make pretty good insulation and can be obtained cheaply at yard sales--intellectual content apparently does not alter R value. Just stack them around your house and visitors will think you're really smart. I just wrapped my copy of "The Stranger" in aluminum foil.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: I just taped aluminum foil to some of my windows Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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I just wrapped my copy of "The Stranger" in aluminum foil.
Nice. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject: Re: I just taped aluminum foil to some of my windows Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

While foiling your windows to, er, 'foil' heat loss can be effective, taking it to the extreme probably is not cost-effective.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: I just taped aluminum foil to some of my windows Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Just wanted to note that the dull side not the shiny is the most reflective Wink

and...whats an MLB?
<plays stupid on tv but is stupid as far as MLB goes in reality>
Dont force me to use google!!

at this point I only wish I had a book or video to "plug" Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:12 pm    Post subject: Re: I just taped aluminum foil to some of my windows Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

This may have already been mentioned somewhere, but bubble wrap may make more sense as an insulator... Apparently it increases the R value of the window by 1, while allowing light in.

http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/Conservation/bubblewrap.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: I just taped aluminum foil to some of my windows Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Aluminum foil works pretty well in deflecting the mind-control transmissions MLB beams down from their satellites.


Why is Major League Baseball trying to control our minds? Shocked


If you take your Focusyn for a couple of weeks, you would understand the entire evil plot.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:55 pm    Post subject: Re: I just taped aluminum foil to some of my windows Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

NEOPO wrote:
Just wanted to note that the dull side not the shiny is the most reflective


Googling around a bit I found:

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The official word from the Reynolds aluminum people is as follows: "It makes little difference which side of the Reynolds Wrap aluminum foil you use--both sides do the same fine job of cooking, freezing, and storing food. There is a slight difference in the reflectivity of the two sides, but it is so slight that laboratory instruments are required to measure it." -StraightDope.com


I liked this answer too:

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The shiny side is slightly better reflector of heat. Face that side of the foil in the appropriate direction. To keep things cold, put the shiny side on the outside -- that will reflect incoming heat. To keep things warm, face the shiny side inward toward the hot food -- to reflect the heat that is trying to escape back into the food.

Note that people often bake potatoes with the shiny side out -- that is because it makes for a better (prettier) presentation. In reality, baking them that way reflects the incoming heat on the outside, slightly slowing the cooking process.

Of course, in reality, which side of the foil faces where makes little difference. It does make for lively conversation, though.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:33 am    Post subject: Re: I just taped aluminum foil to some of my windows Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Just wanted to say thanks to whomever mentioned the black out fabric. I didn't know that they made that and will be getting some.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:36 am    Post subject: Re: I just taped aluminum foil to some of my windows Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

For those interested in tinfoil over the windows, be aware that indoor marijuana grow ops use this method to maximise the light the plants receive from the grow lamps they use.

Be prepared to explain your...ummm....motivations.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: I just taped aluminum foil to some of my windows Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I use the bubble wrap insulation used for insulating your hot water tank. The bubbles give you a little extra insulation and its white on one side and silver on teh other so it doesn't look like an eye sore to both sides, and you can flip it.

Its also stiffer and easier to hold in place and reuse. Having double windows its easy to put between the windows.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:58 pm    Post subject: Re: I just taped aluminum foil to some of my windows Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I've never heard of using aluminum foil on windows for energy conservation. I have seen it recommended for use on bedroom windows for shift workers to block out light and improve sleep.

Where do you live that you are trying to cool your house in November?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:16 pm    Post subject: Re: I just taped aluminum foil to some of my windows Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Doly wrote:
NeoPeasant wrote:

Giving up the Simpsons was the among the toughest parts of eliminating television from my life a few years ago.


Not knowing much about the Simpsons is one of the greatest things of not having had television in my life, ever.


Hence thousands of posts at peakoil.com? Replace one screen with another?

TV is fun and genuinely entertaining. The fact I earn my living from people with cable TV doesnt influence me at all.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Window insulation in summer Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I really want to save energy on air conditioning this summer, even though I spend far more on heating than air conditioning and am a 100% participant in the Alliant Energy Second Nature program. Air conditioning is a flagrant example of positive feedback, because burning fossil fuels to cool our buildings exacerbates the very heat we're trying to shield ourselves from. Since I'm not about to live in a hotter house until I'm forced to (above 80 degrees is oppressive, so I keep it at 79), I will install a timer for the window air conditioner, I will use the aluminum foil trick again, and I will shade the air conditioner again with a tarp hanging from the awning above.

But the one thing I haven't addressed and don't already have a solution for is insulation to keep the hot, humid air outside and the cooler, drier air inside (the exact opposite of the goal in winter).

The plastic window insulation and rope caulking for the drafty windows have been handy for conserving energy in winter.

I know that the windows are just drafty in summer as they are in winter, even though the much smaller temperature difference between the inside and outside air makes this much less noticeable. So insulation will be just as important then as it is now. When you take into account the storm windows rope caulking, and plastic insulation I use in winter, you'll find that my windows are MUCH draftier in summer.

The trouble with the plastic window insulation and rope caulking are the fact that they make it more difficult to open the windows, which is something I occasionally want to do in summer. Opening the windows does conserve energy at certain times, such cool, dry evenings that follow warm, sunny days (in other words, periods when the house is hot but the air outside is cool).

What do you think? Are there any good alternatives to sealing up the house? Do any of you go to the trouble of switching back to storm windows for every heat wave?
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