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America, why do we have so many guns?
Because we are protestant paranoiacs who always see an imaginary enemy somewhere - the black man, the communist, the terrorist
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Because our gigantic military-industrial complex makes billions out of selling them and controls us
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Because we like crime
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Because we believe in the 17th century militia myth which says that the State is Evil and is Always Out To Get Us
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Because Jesus always carried a Glock 9mm to defend himself against Satan and his Embodiments Who Hide Behind Every Corner
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: America, why do we have so many guns? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

rogerhb wrote:

Are you going to go into a hospital, a school, a prison, on a train or aircraft all tooled up?


Well that's just silly. But I just I don't understand the question... go to those places with a weapon to protect myself or inflict harm?

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Someday, you're going to have to take your sweaty palms off your gun just to get something actually done in life.


Geez, it's not like I'm bunkered down in the basement behind sand bags. The gun has it's place, it stays there until (God forbid) it is needed. I don't think I've even looked at it in six months.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:04 pm    Post subject: Re: America, why do we have so many guns? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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But I'm sure some of you will pull out the absurd mantra saying that it's not the gun that kills, it's the madman. He can use a screwdriver to execute schoolchildren, etc...


Have you ever heard of these recent incidents Lorenzo?

26/11/2004
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School attack in China: eight children were stabbed to death. ... A man broke into a Chinese school dormitory and stabbed eight children to death in their


9/6/2001
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Japanese school stabbing claims 8 children. KNIFE ATTACK: A 37-year-old man, having taken 10 times his daily dose of anti-depressants, walked into an Osaka


Civilian gun ownership is, of course, virtually non-existent in both these countries. In China the only guns that can be owned are .177 air rifles, and in Japan the olympic pistol team are the only civilians with pistols. How do you explain that?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: America, why do we have so many guns? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

lorenzo wrote:
In America there are more guns than people. The question is why.


Rats in a box love to kill.

The better question is why do we use them to kill each other more than any other country?

We are just some violent sumbitches.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: America, why do we have so many guns? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Chocky wrote:
and in Japan the olympic pistol team are the only civilians with pistols. How do you explain that?


Mmmm, In Japan its not particularly difficult to own a shotgun, and not much more difficult to own a rifle. You have to do it the Japanese way of course, lots of registering this, approving that, checking and testing and whatnot.... It'd drive an American nuts; but seems par for the course for most interesting things in Japan.

They do have a wierd phobia about handguns though....
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: America, why do we have so many guns? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

http://yarchive.net/gun/politics/japan_gun.html

Interesting, quite similar to Australia in some ways. You would have to be very patient.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: America, why do we have so many guns? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

We are a nation of risk takers. The stay at homes stayed at home. It is in our genes. Risk takers are reckless and sometimes dangerous. We kill each other quite readily with our automobiles and never think twice when we crank up and drive to the local stop and shop for a pack of cigarettes. Boys and girls it is who we are. You can worry about it or just go with the flow.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:20 am    Post subject: Re: America, why do we have so many guns? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

We have so many guns because gun owners love freedom.

Its sad that americans identify with william wallace more than even a scottish person would
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:22 am    Post subject: Re: America, why do we have so many guns? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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We have so many guns because gun owners love freedom.


Really? Then why do so many gun owners watch TV?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:24 am    Post subject: Re: America, why do we have so many guns? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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We have so many guns because gun owners love freedom.


Really? Then why do so many gun owners watch TV?


I imagine its because, since they arent busy being slaves to the local feudal lord that they have plenty of leaisure time. Exactly how many of them do watch t.v. and what does that have to do with it?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: America, why do we have so many guns? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Cloud9 wrote:
We are a nation of risk takers.

That is so not true. The average American gets a hang nail and they are looking for someone to sue. Americans are absolutely obsessed with avoiding any sort of possible risk. Try riding a bicycle without a helmet in most parts of a the US and you are going to have a cop giving you a ticket.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:49 am    Post subject: Re: America, why do we have so many guns? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

smallpoxgirl wrote:
Cloud9 wrote:
We are a nation of risk takers.

That is so not true. The average American gets a hang nail and they are looking for someone to sue. Americans are absolutely obsessed with avoiding any sort of possible risk. Try riding a bicycle without a helmet in most parts of a the US and you are going to have a cop giving you a ticket.


True. We are a nation of pussies. Gun owners are actually a minority.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:29 am    Post subject: Re: America, why do we have so many guns? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

You guys clearly run in different circles than I do. We fly airplanes, scuba dive, carry guns, ride motor cycles, and drive Jeeps with the top down. We chase lobsters in the Keys and shoot sharks with AK’s. I am building an airplane I intend to fly across the U.S. My son is an attorney and is building the ultimate mud Jeep. You guys need to get out more. Join your local E.A.A. Dive a reef, sit on the front row of the Baptist church and read Nietzsche, go down to the range and pop a few caps, do something. There is a whole world of risk takers out there, but you have to get off your couch to meet them. T.V., what is that? I saw 15 minutes this weekend about the quake in Hawaii. As far as us being a bunch of woosies, your friendly French Pugeaut burners would not make it to the end of my street much less across town.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:49 am    Post subject: Re: America, why do we have so many guns? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Cloud9 wrote:
You guys clearly run in different circles than I do. We fly airplanes, scuba dive, carry guns, ride motor cycles, and drive Jeeps with the top down. We chase lobsters in the Keys and shoot sharks with AK’s. I am building an airplane I intend to fly across the U.S. My son is an attorney and is building the ultimate mud Jeep. You guys need to get out more. Join your local E.A.A. Dive a reef, sit on the front row of the Baptist church and read Nietzsche, go down to the range and pop a few caps, do something. There is a whole world of risk takers out there, but you have to get off your couch to meet them. T.V., what is that? I saw 15 minutes this weekend about the quake in Hawaii. As far as us being a bunch of woosies, your friendly French Pugeaut burners would not make it to the end of my street much less across town.


I agree a lot of americans are risk takers but they are now the minority (still at least over 3 million but minority compared to 300 million). Most sheople watch that above mentioned activities on T.V. and most american cities are completely shut down by one inch of snow on the ground or are busy suing some small business beacause the wheel chair ramp is slightly too steep, or making sure kids dont play "tag" in schools or whatever.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:34 pm    Post subject: Re: America, why do we have so many guns? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Very big new reason: Military Commissions Act
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:06 am    Post subject: Re: America, why do we have so many guns? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

gego wrote:
Very big new reason: Military Commissions Act


Agreed, every american should be spending every last fiat dollar they can muster and every last bit of credit the money masters will lend them on Guns and more importantly ammunition before they are banned. Also every american should borrow as much money as the money masters will possibly let them and buy gold and silver and totally beat them at their own game: "hyper-inflation". Many smart people have done this when previous fiat currencies have collapsed

It would be interesting if Visa and Master card banned transactions on guns and ammo and precious metals.
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