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WildRose Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Jun 21, 2006 Posts: 1020
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: Canadians expect failure on climate change |
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I, for one, am reading everything that I can find on the effects the tar sands operations are having on the boreal forest in Alberta and the increase in C02 emissions. My intention is to be as vocal with what I learn as possible. I hate what's happening to northern Alberta, and the effects will be felt far from this province as well.
Not all Albertans are happy with this boom economy, either; it doesn't benefit everyone as cost of living rises and apartments are harder to find. I think an area of the country where the economy is more stable over the long haul and is more diversified would be a preferable place to live. |
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Aaron 800 lb Gorilla

Joined: Apr 15, 2004 Posts: 6384 Location: Houston
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Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:01 am Post subject: Re: Global warming will threaten millions say climate scient |
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| Quote: | | "The so-called thermal extinction at the end of the Paleocene began when atmospheric CO2 was just under 1,000 parts per million (ppm). At the end of the Triassic, CO2 was just above 1,000 ppm. Today with CO2 around 385 ppm...climbing at an annual rate of 2 ppm...to 3 ppm, levels could approach 900 ppm by the end of the next century." |
SA _________________ "When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen F Roberts.
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Troyboy1208 Intermediate Crude


Joined: Apr 26, 2006 Posts: 504 Location: Orlando FL
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Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:30 am Post subject: Re: Global warming will threaten millions say climate scient |
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And who says the first and worst effect of GW is just weather? What if GW spawns the spread of disease, human or plant, which devastates the health of billions?
LOL i had to read this a few times to realize your talking about Global Warming not George W |
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Graeme Fission


Joined: Mar 04, 2005 Posts: 2567 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:36 pm Post subject: Video of the Week: Sachs--State of the Planet Opening Addres |
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Video of the Week: Sachs--State of the Planet Opening Address
| Quote: | Superb video. An absoloute must see. I was tempted to make it a video of the month and just hilight it again every week!
On the point of economic growth and our current use of resources Sachs points out that we are already consuming at a unsustainable level. He also points out that in the coming years the population is expected to grow by some 50% from 6.5 to 9 billion. If at the same time as this, economic growth allows the average world economy to catch up with the US, then over the next 45 years the throughput of material resources will increase 4, 5 or 6 times!
Sachs discusses issus as diverse as deforestation, climate change and exploitation of thw world marine life reserves: |
climatechangeaction _________________ Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe. H. G. Wells.
Fatih Birol's motto: leave oil before it leaves us. |
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MrMambo Heavy Crude


Joined: Jul 22, 2005 Posts: 163
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: Video of the Week: Sachs--State of the Planet Opening Ad |
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Maybe it was an interesting video, I'm not finding out because I wont install that crappy player.
Why the Fark must people make those realplayer files when there are tons of other formats available where you dont need that stinky realplayer program. |
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Mesuge Intermediate Crude


Joined: Nov 01, 2005 Posts: 796 Location: Euro high horse bastard on the run
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Video of the Week: Sachs--State of the Planet Opening Ad |
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very interesting at all accounts with the exception he claims we are not facing fossil fuel shortagy and all the peak oil books are wrong.. _________________ DOOMerotron: at all-time high [8.1] out of 10.. |
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BrownDog Heavy Crude


Joined: May 24, 2005 Posts: 272 Location: N. TX
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: Video of the Week: Sachs--State of the Planet Opening Ad |
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| MrMambo wrote: | Maybe it was an interesting video, I'm not finding out because I wont install that crappy player.
Why the Fark must people make those realplayer files when there are tons of other formats available where you dont need that stinky realplayer program. |
google "real alternative". |
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Graeme Fission


Joined: Mar 04, 2005 Posts: 2567 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:53 am Post subject: Re: Video of the Week: Sachs--State of the Planet Opening Ad |
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Mesuge, He's referring to unconventional oil, natural gas and coal. If we burnt most of it, we would wipe out nearly all of the biosphere including ourselves. _________________ Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe. H. G. Wells.
Fatih Birol's motto: leave oil before it leaves us. |
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Doly Expert


Joined: Dec 03, 2004 Posts: 4031
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:35 am Post subject: Re: Video of the Week: Sachs--State of the Planet Opening Ad |
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| Graeme wrote: | | If we burnt most of it, we would wipe out nearly all of the biosphere including ourselves. |
Don't be so negative. The only thing that would happen is that climate would turn to something similar to Jurassic (tropical all over the world). Life can survive very happily in those circumstances.
Of course, civilization doesn't seem to agree too much with that sort of weather, but hey... |
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Graeme Fission


Joined: Mar 04, 2005 Posts: 2567 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:15 am Post subject: Re: Video of the Week: Sachs--State of the Planet Opening Ad |
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Doly, It's nice to have someone so positive! I doubt whether humans could survive in a Jurassic climate. Actually, I'm referring to the runaway greenhouse effect. Some think that it may already be occuring with melting of Siberian permafrost, and recent dramatic rises in CO2 . Hansen thinks we have about 10 years until tipping point. Still others think it won't start until after 2050. This far from an exhaustive review. The severity of climate change will depend on what we will do about it.
The solutions that Sachs suggest to bring us back to a sustainable path are perhaps not too surprising. Decarbonizing energy for instance. He also talks about technological solutions to provide food and better health for a growing world population. He says these are global problems that require cooperation from all nations. No one nation can do this alone. Anyone got any further comments? _________________ Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe. H. G. Wells.
Fatih Birol's motto: leave oil before it leaves us. |
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Ayame Intermediate Crude

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Joined: Jun 29, 2006 Posts: 552 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:16 pm Post subject: Ozone hole is 'biggest on record' |
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This year's Antarctic ozone hole is the largest on record, according to US government scientists. The "hole" is a severe depletion of the ozone gas layer in the upper atmosphere that protects life on Earth by blocking ultraviolet rays from the sun.
From 21-30 September, its average area was 27.4 million sq km (10.6 million sq miles) - bigger than North America. It is caused mainly by human-produced compounds that release chlorine and bromine gases into the stratosphere.
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NEOPO permanently banned

Joined: May 15, 2005 Posts: 4144 Location: THE MATRIX
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: Ozone hole is 'biggest on record' |
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This cant be right.
Computer models did not predict this!
BBC is pro communist and anti american!
Its ok as if it is true there are many many technologies that can be applied such as a giant shield made of cow hide which we will get from good ole american texas longhorns - made in america!
I wish all of these pseudo scientists would get a haircut and a real job in a decent field like say petroleum geology  _________________ It is easier to enslave a people that wish to remain free then it is to free a people who wish to remain enslaved. |
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nth Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Feb 24, 2005 Posts: 1973
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:21 pm Post subject: Re: Ozone hole is 'biggest on record' |
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| This article does not mention that ozone layer is thicker outside of anarctica and that the banned agreement is working beautifully. It would have been better if we stopped pollution earlier, but we are lucky that the ban went into effect early enough to save the ozone. |
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rockdoc123 Light Sweet Crude


Joined: May 16, 2005 Posts: 1667
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:20 pm Post subject: Re: Ozone hole is 'biggest on record' |
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NEOPO
I think you need to read posts more carefully. The models predicting behavior in the ozone are not in wide disagreement. I think most accept that aerosols are the main variable aided and abetted by seasonal climate variation, although some have argued for other variables.
Don't confuse this with a CO2 induced climate change argument which it is not. I'd have to find the exact reference but I think in a paper he wrote back in the late nineties Hansen stated that based on the forcing attributed to ozone that if the holes were repaired the stratosphere and troposhpere temperatures would tend to equalize. |
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Graeme Fission


Joined: Mar 04, 2005 Posts: 2567 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:51 am Post subject: The Thirteenth Tipping Point |
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The Thirteenth Tipping Point
| Quote: | Today Amazonia is the most famous of Schellnhuber's tipping points. For a generation, kids have grown up learning that the Amazon is at risk from massive deforestation. But even if clearcutting were to halt, climate models forecast that a warming globe will convert the wet Amazonia forest into savanna within this century, and the loss of trees will render the region a net CO2 producer, further accelerating global warming.
Changes in the currents of the North Atlantic constitute another tipping point. As the Atlantic warms, ice caps melt, diluting the ocean and potentially shutting down its thermohaline circulation (THC), the oceanic river currently delivering the thermal equivalent of 500,000 power stations' worth of warmth to Europe. A 2005 study published in Nature found that after 50 years of monitoring, a critical component of the THC had suddenly slowed by 30 percent. |
motherjones _________________ Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe. H. G. Wells.
Fatih Birol's motto: leave oil before it leaves us. |
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