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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:04 am    Post subject: Re: [Opinion]Assessment planning process for material goods Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Hey, I like my cast iron stuff too, and they are just as easy to clean as any of the other stuff. My gripe however is again about the dependence on luxury items. We are so very used to absolutely perfect looking fried eggs, and with a non stick, I can drop a perfect pair of fried eggs on a plate without ever touching them with a spatula. Neither cast iron, nor stainless will release a frying egg anywhere near as perfectly.


Depends upon how much grease you use. My grandpa still has a pan dedicated to eggs (he eats 2-3 with bacon every morning). When you crack an egg into .25 inch of hot bacon grease it cooks up very nice. Also gives you that "trace" amount of fat Smile you need to go out and work all day.

Again you would have people turning their nose up at that egg at first but not for long. I still prefer some good oatmeal but there are morning that I wish I had that pan already sitting on my stove.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:40 am    Post subject: Re: [Opinion]Assessment planning process for material goods Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Well, Jim, I was also thinking about a way to get rid of contagious items. While I have never had to do so, I am thinking that just burying them in the ground is not a great idea.
Contagious items: items used to nurse people with communicable diseases, or what if someone with HIV is wounded.

Also (lolol) need some place for the zombie hordes to keep warm!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject: Re: [Opinion]Assessment planning process for material goods Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Great post.

I started on this a while back but never got organised. My starting point was what was going to be a real problem if I couldn't get it any more.

I started on two lists. The first was what I would actually need to survive. Others have posted lists already here that are much more sophisticated than mine. The second was a transition list. What is required during the transition phase from where I am now. There will be a run up period where I acquire the tools and knowledge (the hard part thats not in books) that will be required to function. Life will be very different when things stabilise in the new world and this change will not happen over night.

What I did come up with (general) that may be useful here is:

~Medicine if needed
~Quality tools for hand crafting (as opposed to the dodgy ones I have now)
~parts for equipment during transition (cars will be around for a short while but you try getting parts for them WTSHTF)


My thinking has been about how to create the new life but first how do I get there.

On the topic of children I have somthing to add. Population overshoot dictates that most of the existing population has to be trimmed (a trite description of what will probably happen). This will not be easy or fair. We won't be drawing straws. When we are done though, who is left? Those who are left have the responisblity of building the new world. Their attitudes and capabilites are very important.

If we have survivors who are nasty and igonrant who think this is their chance to rule the world, then history will repeat itself. If this is the case, perhaps we should just give in now. If on the other hand those who are left view the world with a bit more maturity and respect we will have a chance long term. Hard lessons are more easily remembered.

If the 'right' person had 20 children who grew up to be 20 valuable people in the new world then that would be a good thing. The posters on this site tend to think long term and about the consequences of our actions. They may not all agree with each other but they think for themselves.

The one size fits all does not apply to those who think differently to the herd. My point is having children is not necessarily a bad thing, nor is it necessarily irresponsible. What will happen in the next 20 years or so will not be uniform across the planet or even in local states.
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