Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: The Power of Prayer in Peak Oil
Hello. As I have been posting on this site, I have been reading about peak oil all week and am very worried about it. Oil was given as a gift from God for us to use, and we have squandered this resource and will pay dearly if the status quo holds. But I was wondering if maybe we could help mitigate or even reverse the effects through prayer? The ideal scenario would be for God to refill the wells for us, but I don't think we're going to get off that easily. But if we pray enough we may be able to help the economy or end the world's wars so that we can all get together and tackle the issue together to have a soft landing, all under the direction of God. Are there any peak oil prayer groups? I think it could be a good idea.
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: The Power of Prayer in Peak Oil
Our Father, which art in heaven,
Hallowed be thy Gifts.
Peak Oil come,
Thy hydrocarbons depleteth,
in earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily petrol.
And forgive us our creditors,
As we forgive our debtors.
And lead us not into die-off;
But deliver us from the Commons:
For Oil is the kingdom, the power, and the glory,
Forever and ever. (Fragment, consider revising.) Skreee!
(The footnotes at the end of the original linked above are the best part.)
Quote:
* * *
"Petra: upon thee I will build my church." Saint Matthew, quoting our LORD.
1 Thank you Glorious ELOHIM for Day Three of Creation and the massive carbonate reservoirs charged with light, sweet crude oil that we subject to depletion. (We know Thou takest away as well as givest.)
2 Thanks Merciful JEHOVAH for the Prudhoe Bays and Cantarells defunct; the Thunderhorses and Qatifs of the moment; the Kirkuks, East Baghdads, and Rumalias to come. (Not to mention underground rivers of tar immobilized by Albertan ice.)
3 Praise Be to GOD for 3-D seismic X-ray vision of the greasy flanks of Ghawar the Great, permitting freer access to her hidden resources, thus goosing the world economy;
4 And for horizontal drill bores and accessory attachments with which to better probe her deepest recesses and suction her marrowbones for the jet fuels that carry us to concrete-reinforced native Pacific vacation colonies;
5 And for nitrogen injection and miscible gases and water floods in the mystical shapes of giant spatulas scraping #2 heating oil into the vast furnaces that permit us to consume Mai Tais in shirtsleeves on the Eve's celebration of Your Blessed Son's birthday amongst druidic spray-on-snow-foamed spruce "trees";
6 And for suffocating streams of high-octane gasolines (and for fewer Buddhist monks performing street corner immolations) that we may run guilt-free missions in four-wheel-drive combat vehicles to flush out the fresh tomatoes hiding in the snow-drifted megamarkets of exurbia.
7 And let's not forget those methane fields of Persia! Methane becomes ammonia becomes fertilizer becomes maize kernels becomes high-fructose corn syrup becomes cola six-packs and sacks of flavored popcorn balls becomes a continuous entropic treadmill wind at weight loss clinics from sea to shiny Spandex sea;
8 And methane becomes super-heated steam becomes turbine fodder becomes metered Edison lightning streams becomes blinking digital authentic reggae tunes and frosty A/C piped into the meeting rooms of anti-LNG terminal NIMBY rallies in artichoke-besotted West Coast enclaves;
9 And methane becomes benzene becomes styrene becomes egg trays loaded onto knobby-tired grocery-getters, whose drivers are logged-on to secret chats with lovers back at remote mountain ski camps begging that their incipient feta cheese omelet craving be assuaged after the removal of the synthetic rubber sex toy.
10 GOD grant us ethylene for protuberant belly guts extending from alcoholic West Virginian trailer park burger joint employees, to post-war Rwandan Hutu starvation compound kids envying our bloated appetite for agrochemical solvents, diesel-powered combines, polyethylene-swaddled beef byproducts, and Lo-Cal soda pops spilling entropy into buried septic tanks instead of open-air kerosene-fired crap pits.
11 Thanks for the PVC medical technologies that upgrade our rapidly depleting TV war pundits into nubile neo-con tartlets. See them chatter, un-burkha'd and breast-implanted, whilst indignant circumcised insurgents cast improvised bomb-blessings after our slick ape-blind ego-protective motives.
12 Praise the LORD for bunker fuel mobilizing fleets of concrete aircraft carrier jet decks triggering multiple tsunamis of heat loss whilst assembling near the Strait of Hormuz to spam the farthermost satellite reaches of space with Iranian terrorist-threat accusations.
13 Thank JESUS for stitched & sterilized IED stumps offered up in the service of suburban latch-key teens expending long, empty afternoons gazing at flat-screen, high-definition epidermal cells and hair follicles.
14 Thank CHRIST for Thinsulate pillows with which to muffle our shrieks of ecstasy at the prospect of "incendiary devices" reducing Arab and Persian and Kurdish populations to toast crumbs able to be swept off the grand chessboard with a gold-cuff-linked wrist-flick.
15 CREATOR of light, excreter of Babylonian bitumen pits, hoarder of lignite coal seams, secretor of natural gas liquids blisters, depositor of kerogen-soaked Colorado shales, igniter of zeal for all things hydrocarbon:
16 Thou hast said, "Behold, I will send you corn, and wine, and oil, and ye shall be satisfied therewith";
17 And we say,
"We shall not.
We want more.
Let more come,
As always,
From the have-nots."
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: The Power of Prayer in Peak Oil
A very interesting question and I completely agree with the OP. I would say what's most important is your spiritual condition not your physical circumstances.
The only preparation a person needs to make is to be at peace with God through accepting Christ as Saviour. God loves us, but by nature we are sinful and under God's wrath.
In response to the suggestion that preparation is more important than prayer, I'll leave you with this. When God pours out His wrath out on this sinful world, there will be absolutely nowhere to hide and nothing to stop it. Look at what happens in Revelation:
"The kings of the earth, the princes, the commanding officers, the rich, the strong, and every slave and free person, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains. They told the mountains and the rocks, "Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, for the great day of his wrath has come; and who is able to stand?" (Revelation 16:15-17)
That doesn't sound like a lack of preparation was the problem.
ED
{thread moved from Peak Oil Discussion by Shannymara} _________________ Have you ever thought about God and eternity? What will you say when you stand before our Creator after you die?
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: The Power of Prayer in Peak Oil
justfoundout,
I think you have an awesome idea. I just don't think this is the place for it. While I come here for information, and have for quite some time, I find that the environment is hostile to Christianity. I have often wished there was a place for Christians to discuss these things without being belittled. In fact, when I first found out about Peak Oil, I searched and searched for something like what you are talking about. However, I have found nothing like what you are speaking of. Perhaps a better venue for what you are speaking of would be a Yahoo group. I would be happy to give that a try if you start one. It would be great for Christians who are just finding out about Peak Oil, and those who have been aware for a while. I know there are other Christians here on this forum. While that's not a main topic of discussion here, everytime it's brought up, it seems to bring out the claws on some who feel the need to put their catchy one liners in every thread. Pretty much you have to ignore that, but there are some really intelligent people here you can learn alot from if you don't get discouraged with the bickering and the egos. No one has a bigger ego than the one who believes there is none more powerful than humans...
In this group, diversity is a good thing, unless you're different...
And yes, that was a joke. Not all Christians are stupid, and some of us have sense of humor, too. And I've hung out here long enough to know I need it.
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: The Power of Prayer in Peak Oil
Quote:
While I come here for information, and have for quite some time, I find that the environment is hostile to Christianity.
That would be because many of us here have spent a considerable time in schools, and out of schools, reading and studying such things as science and, in my case anyway, scripture, and we detest your god whose "morality" consists of this:
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: The Power of Prayer in Peak Oil
EndDays wrote:
A very interesting question and I completely agree with the OP.
What kind of God are you praying to for more oil and money? Is the plan to exchange your flattery for wealth and comfort? If so then your God is the same as Satan, differing only in name.
EndDays wrote:
The only preparation a person needs to make is to be at peace with God through accepting Christ as Saviour.
There is nothing un-pious about using your God-given hands to do the work left to man. Anything less is sloth.
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject: Re: The Power of Prayer in Peak Oil
Pray to god to replenish the oil fields? Would that be all oil fields or just christian oil fields (US, NZ, Aus, North Sea etc)? Surely replenishing all oil fields would just exacerbate the current geo-political stand-off we have at the moment. The fact that oil seems to have been unequally shared out around the world - favouring islamic nations (KSA, Iran, Iraq, Gulf, Indonesia, Nigeria etc) - would seem to indicate that the one true god is Allah and his prophet Muhammed (PBUH).
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: The Power of Prayer in Peak Oil
Laughs_Last wrote:
What kind of God are you praying to for more oil and money? Is the plan to exchange your flattery for wealth and comfort?
There was a recent thread on cargo cults, and someone suggested that modern-day America is one big cargo cult. Based on the original post, I'd have to agree.
My faith is in John Frum. When he comes back, he will bring us cargo, and I'm positive it will include sweet crude. Pray to John Frum, or no oil for you!
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: The Power of Prayer in Peak Oil
just_found_out wrote:
Hello. As I have been posting on this site, I have been reading about peak oil all week and am very worried about it. Oil was given as a gift from God for us to use, and we have squandered this resource and will pay dearly if the status quo holds. But I was wondering if maybe we could help mitigate or even reverse the effects through prayer? The ideal scenario would be for God to refill the wells for us, but I don't think we're going to get off that easily. But if we pray enough we may be able to help the economy or end the world's wars so that we can all get together and tackle the issue together to have a soft landing, all under the direction of God. Are there any peak oil prayer groups? I think it could be a good idea.
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:46 pm Post subject: Re: The Power of Prayer in Peak Oil
ohcomeon wrote:
justfoundout,
I think you have an awesome idea. I just don't think this is the place for it. While I come here for information, and have for quite some time, I find that the environment is hostile to Christianity.
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject: Re: The Power of Prayer in Peak Oil
thylacine wrote:
Pray to god to replenish the oil fields? Would that be all oil fields or just christian oil fields (US, NZ, Aus, North Sea etc)? Surely replenishing all oil fields would just exacerbate the current geo-political stand-off we have at the moment. The fact that oil seems to have been unequally shared out around the world - favouring islamic nations (KSA, Iran, Iraq, Gulf, Indonesia, Nigeria etc) - would seem to indicate that the one true god is Allah and his prophet Muhammed (PBUH).
Good point. Maybe Islam is the World's One True Religion (TM). That must be why God arranged geology and world history so that the Muslim nations would be left with the lion's share of oil just as the world peaks! OMFG, we've been worshipping the wrong God (TM) all this time!!!
The other possibility is that God arranged geology and world history so that the Muslim nations would be left with the oil so that the Christians would be motivated to invade their countries, take their oil and either kill them or convert them to the other World's One True Religion (TM).
To the OP: if you want to be Christ-like, you need to drop out of the dominant oil/war/dollar-hegemony based economy as it is much like the war based Roman economy of 2,000 years. That's probably why Jesus and his disciples largely did not participate in it.
In short, this means quit your job, get off the forum, join an eco-commune, reduce your consumption of electricity and oil down to virtually nothing, and get ready to engage in some hump busting labor. That is more Christ-like than just about anything else you could do. _________________ http://www.peakoil.org
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