I think this is the beginnings of an economy based on perpetual growth and fossil fuel energy running headlong into geological energy constraints. Basically I see an undulatory downward path for the rest of my life. From here out, I think any rallies in our economic condition are going to be met with spiking commodity prices that knock us right back down.
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Heat - Wood (was Wood Stoves)
I like having my woodstove right in the living area of the house. You'll find that every living creature and person in the house is attracted to it. They will all be in there, and go to sleep. I like to see the fire, and know that every piece of wood I cut is warming me and a cheery glow is imparted into the room.
It's profound to have a hearth. It's a great sense of security to have a pile of wood. It's a really nice thing. You'll love it. _________________ Deep in the mud and slime of things, even there, something sings.
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Heat - Wood (was Wood Stoves)
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They have been using the system for a number of years, and it works well for them. They are 100% off grid with PVs and use their excess power to heat water and run refrigeration, after charging their electric recumbent trikes.
Hey Roccman, did you check this out yet?? I think you should stop bragging and bow to your new prepper overlords. _________________ As long as I am around, there are no worries we have reached "Peak Words"
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:17 am Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Heat - Wood (was Wood Stoves)
Grimnir wrote:
I am planning on installing a small Regency woodstove at the bottom of the stairs in an unfinished area of the basement. Since the floor and walls are concrete .....
I recommend doing a little research on the principles of a Rocket Stove. Can't say enough about them. I am reading through this thread in amazement at how much money people are spending on something they could build basically for just a couple hundred dollars. I checked WisJim's link and saw the workings of the Rocket Stove adapted to an expensive conventional wood burning stove.
If I were going to build a wood burning stove in my basement (I don't have a basement), I would lay down an 8" bed of cob and place the stove on top then surround the stove with more cob on both sides and the back. The cob works just as well as soapstone does by absorbing lots of heat then slowly releasing it for hours after the fire burns out. But cob is basically free of cost.
Another nice thing about Rocket Stoves is that they burn more efficiently, cleanly, and you would use about half of the wood a conventional wood stoves burns to get the same BTU's of heat.
Before spending upwards of a thousand dollars I strongly recommend you look into the rocket stove.
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:23 am Post subject: Re: [Shelter] Heat - Wood (was Wood Stoves)
Consensi wrote:
Grimnir wrote:
I am planning on installing a small Regency woodstove at the bottom of the stairs in an unfinished area of the basement. Since the floor and walls are concrete .....
I recommend doing a little research on the principles of a Rocket Stove. Can't say enough about them. I am reading through this thread in amazement at how much money people are spending on something they could build basically for just a couple hundred dollars. I checked WisJim's link and saw the workings of the Rocket Stove adapted to an expensive conventional wood burning stove.
If I were going to build a wood burning stove in my basement (I don't have a basement), I would lay down an 8" bed of cob and place the stove on top then surround the stove with more cob on both sides and the back. The cob works just as well as soapstone does by absorbing lots of heat then slowly releasing it for hours after the fire burns out. But cob is basically free of cost.
Another nice thing about Rocket Stoves is that they burn more efficiently, cleanly, and you would use about half of the wood a conventional wood stoves burns to get the same BTU's of heat.
Before spending upwards of a thousand dollars I strongly recommend you look into the rocket stove.
Got my flue for a small version yesterday! Not lit it yet, but hope to have it working by end of week. Thanks for the advice Consensi. _________________ Live, Love, Learn, Leave Legacy.....oh and have a Laugh while you're doing it!
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