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Tuike Heavy Crude


Joined: Jan 10, 2005 Posts: 408 Location: Finland
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:28 am Post subject: Eurovision Song Contest - how much longer? |
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ESC = Eurovision Song Contest
Last week an Eurovision Song Contest was held here in Helsinki. To host one costs alot of time, energy and money. I was wondering there might not be many of these spectacles left before things go bad. Even with plenty of energy it's hard to organize one because of the money it consumes. Of course the Eurovision could be downgraded to a radio show, then it would more like singin actually that matters than circus freak show on stage, like Ukraine this year and Lordi, which won last year. |
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IslandCrow Intermediate Crude


Joined: Sep 12, 2005 Posts: 771 Location: Finland
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:39 am Post subject: Re: Eurovision Song Contest - how much longer? |
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I think it will last a long time (it was going when I was at school (over 30 years ago!) They will have to scale it back, and there would be fewer people travelling to it, which should make it cheaper to host. _________________ We should teach our children the 4-Rs: Reduce, Reuse, Recycle and Rejoice. |
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brentcrude Coal

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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:12 am Post subject: Re: Eurovision Song Contest - how much longer? |
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How much longer the Olympics ?
Will London host the last one perhaps ? |
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brentcrude Coal

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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:19 am Post subject: Re: Eurovision Song Contest - how much longer? |
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Or Formula1 Grand Prix
Or World Cup Football (Soccer) |
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phaeryen Heavy Crude


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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:32 am Post subject: Re: Eurovision Song Contest - how much longer? |
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Sports and the entertainment business in general will take a beating in the coming years ahead.
Yet the basic premise why songs are written and football gets played will not change - people love music and people like to sublimate their aggressions and national pride into sports.
Things will be scaled back this much is certain. If societies dont completely tumble then I think we will see sports and hear music and concerts, because that helps keep the masses in line.
What was it that the romans said, all the mob needs is bread and some circus to tide them along... ? I only know this saying in my mother dialect.  |
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TorrKing Intermediate Crude


Joined: Nov 24, 2005 Posts: 743 Location: The ever shrinking wilds of Norway
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: Eurovision Song Contest - how much longer? |
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| Tuike wrote: | | ...Ukraine this year and Lordi... |
In you Finns' honour: Lordi was far better than the crap from Ukraine this year.
I've heard that an American equivalent is planned too, how is that coming along? Can't wait to see California's entry.  _________________ http://livingprimitively.com/ |
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virgincrude Heavy Crude


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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: Eurovision Song Contest - how much longer? |
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"people love music" it is questionable whether any exists in the Eurovision Song Contest.
Obviously it will just move to its natural environment: Israel (why are they in there every year? Nul points
Seriously, it will shrivel and die but not immediately and not for the reasons we suspect. Promoters and sponsors will see what a waste of resources it is: where do the winners/participants go, year after year? = oblivion
The Eurovision song contest is a crude display of opportunistic patriotism:
"A patriot sets himself apart in his own country under his own flag, sneers at other nations and keeps an army of uniformed assassins on hand at heavy expense to grab slices of other people's countries and keep them from grabbing slices of his. In the intervals between campaigns he washes the blood off his hands and works for 'the universal brotherhood of man' - with his mouth." : Mark Twain, The Lowest Animal |
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IanC Heavy Crude

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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: Eurovision Song Contest - how much longer? |
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Implications of Peak Oil are massive for the entertainment industry, including the ESC. I think sports are especially vulnerable. We have many leagues of many different sports, nearly all of which travel to games. In fact, the better, more elite the team, the farther and more often they travel...usually by airplane...with entourage...then repeat a few days later for the game. This isn't just professional leagues, but college, high school, and elite "club" sports here in the US.
As part of relocalization, which will be forced on us by economic realities of PO, entertainment will become intensely local...I hope. All that travel and decadent resource use contributes very little of value to our society that could not be gained just as well by staying home. Think local league sports, local bands, dances, etc. I'm anxious for things like this and support local entertainment when I have the option.
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Chris25 Tar Sands


Joined: Apr 04, 2007 Posts: 79 Location: England- UK
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 3:37 am Post subject: Re: Eurovision Song Contest - how much longer? |
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I give it 4 years max.
I think even by the next ESC there will be a feeling of insecurity in Europe. What with so many countries facing inflation rises, interest rate rises and unemployment due to unsustainable economies and for ever increasing crude oil prices.
4-5 years the show will be finished. |
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shakespear1 Light Sweet Crude

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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 6:10 am Post subject: Re: Eurovision Song Contest - how much longer? |
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I think of myself as open to all types of music and do not limit myself to that which is sang in English. However watching Eurovision this year was a trial. I had enough after 1 hr. The music sucked Some tunes even had similar wording and titles.
The winner in my opinion must have bought the privilege. I would shut this show down ASAP. _________________ Men argue, nature acts !
Voltaire
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peripato Heavy Crude


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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:45 am Post subject: Re: Eurovision Song Contest - how much longer? |
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The same can be asked of Big Brother, the various "Idol" shows and other crappy so-called reality based programmes. It almost makes you wish for a fast collapse just so we can be rid of this crap. |
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What_Went_Wrong Heavy Crude


Joined: May 08, 2007 Posts: 119 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 2:00 am Post subject: Re: Eurovision Song Contest - how much longer? |
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| brentcrude wrote: | How much longer the Olympics ?
Will London host the last one perhaps ? |
I don't think even London will happen. 5 years and the crash will be well underway. |
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Smudger Heavy Crude


Joined: Apr 05, 2007 Posts: 153 Location: Great Britain
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:06 am Post subject: Re: Eurovision Song Contest - how much longer? |
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I think some people are missing the point of ESC. for the most part its a light hearted song show - you only have to listen to Terry Wogan's commentary to realise that. the silly costumes, bimbi boppy lyrics and the tactical voting all has a certain balck comedy about it. Serbia winning this year with votes from its closest neighbours had a particular irony about it! indeed the ESC could be argued as being a good for allowing countries to offer the olive branch of peace via giving a traditional enemy a point (so long as its not those pesky french!) - may it live forever!
PS On behalf of Great Britain I'd like to apologse for the quality of this years entry - it had no redeeming features...... |
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Madpaddy Expert


Joined: Jun 25, 2004 Posts: 1978
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:38 am Post subject: Re: Eurovision Song Contest - how much longer? |
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I love the Eurovision. Ireland has won it 7 times (more than any other country). It spawned Riverdance where we all got to see comely Irish maidens instead of the traditional 22 stone Biddies our women were stereotyped as. In fact Miss World is the only global competition the Irish have ever won. More than all that however, Eurovision inspired the best episode of the greatest comedy series of all time. The Eurosong episode of "Father Ted". Excuse my bias here folks.
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What_Went_Wrong Heavy Crude


Joined: May 08, 2007 Posts: 119 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:48 am Post subject: Re: Eurovision Song Contest - how much longer? |
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| Smudger wrote: |
PS On behalf of Great Britain I'd like to apologse for the quality of this years entry - it had no redeeming features...... |
Just this year? Dude we fail with shame every year! it's painful to witness
'Oh ah just a little bit, oh ah, A little bit more!'
And lets not forget love city groove! Just two past entries that spring to mind as cringe worthy. |
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