Is there any reason to hope in these futureless times...

JoeW

If you want reason to hope, take a good long look the next time you come across a parent with an infant or small child. I have two beautiful little girls myself, and if you think I am going to stand idly by while the world goes to hell, you're nuts. As far as I'm concerned, there is reason to hope, reason to plan, reason to try to make a difference and make this world a better place--even if that means doing our small part to make it a little less hell than it otherwise would have been.

Think about the generations to come. Humanity will likely survive whatever the future holds, but in what form? We have the power to shape the course of history with our every action...
Will we?

pstarr

Where's Kristen? You scared her off with all those positive vibes.

No there is no reason to hope. Hope is a hopeless and pathetic excuse for not doing things right now. here. If you have time to hope then you are bored. There are good fights and bad fights you need to engage. There is entertainment and love and laughter and friends and food and good times. That is all you were put on this planet for.

Now for what is coming down the pike. Nobody knows but it will be unlike anything you have seen before. The Greatest Show On Earth is about to start. Hang on. We're going on a ride 5bullwhip

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Sys1 · Intermediate Crude Joined: Feb 25, 2005 Posts: 645

Many years ago when i was back at university, i played a video game called "fallout", and i thought it was cool to live in a post-apocalyptic world. You should play it (as long as there's no blackout in your region), you'll like it!
Since i discovered peak oil, i watched movies like "Soylent green", "Mad max" or "1984".
Clearly, the future looks great.
Look! Everything is so boring today: TV adds, people listening ipods in the subway, modern artists creating nonsense crap, anorexic women driving SUV, sport and people information, money, money and money...
Well, ok, medicine, air travel, freedom, cheap food and water, electricity, internet... will go away. Bye bye industrial civilization! Welcome to the post petroleum prehistoric age!

evilgenius

You could be pro-active. If you think and take charge you will feel as good as possible.

If you don't live in a good spot for TSHTF, for instance, you probably ought to move. As far as I'm concerned anybody living where it gets seriously cold in winter needs to consider moving south or lower in elevation now. Moving now allows you time to ingratiate yourself to a community and not be treated like a refugee when the time comes. Even if you don't get to know anybody you will still get to know the routines of whatever place you choose. That knowledge could save your life.

Likewise you could make sure you know how to use as many tools as possible. You could study first aid. You could work out. Stockpile books. Figure out DC electricity. Face forward, in other words.
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SpringCreekFarm · Intermediate Crude Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 884

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HEADER_RACK · Heavy Crude Joined: Feb 15, 2007 Posts: 482

There is always reason to hope.
No matter how far we might fall or civilization might crumble, we always seem to rebound. We are a resilient species. We have overcome ice ages,mega volcanoes and numerous local disaters.
Just because those of us in this time frame might have to face unparrelled challenges ahead is no reason to give up.Future generations are counting on us to make it through. Civilization will always rebuild itself in one form or another.
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bshirt · Heavy Crude Joined: Dec 23, 2006 Posts: 446

Just think how refreshing it will be to live with zero uniformed, fully armed "government" officials/bureaucrats telling you how to live every part of your life.

That sounds like a gift from God to me and I'm very, very willing and grateful to take my chances.

MonteQuest

Kristen,

Your future lies with those with whom you surround yourself. You need a phalanx of MacGyver types with skills to help you cope and adapt to the coming changes.

Move to where that type of thinking dominates more so than box-store thinking.

I see two camps emerging from this crisis: Those that choose to fight to maintain an unsustainable way of life, and those that choose to powerdown and attempt to become sustainable by re-localizing and learning, once again, to share the resources. A community of man can be reborn, and with it, a higher quality of life here on earth will come as a result.

But it isn't going to be a smooth transition. It may take a long time to re-establish a balance with nature. Many of the feedback systems of Mother Earth have yet to show their face. Global climate change may soon overshadow hydrocarbon depletion.

Whatever the future holds, we need to learn to grow our own food. We need to learn to be much more self sufficient.

Self-sufficiency is the key to survival.

Gardening and being self-sufficient is fun, but alot of work.

And that is really one of the biggies: we need to learn how to go back to work with our back and our hands.

Here is a blog from a 34 year old mother of 4.

Boris555 · Tar Sands Joined: Feb 01, 2006 Posts: 59

Battle_Scarred_Galactico · Intermediate Crude Joined: Apr 07, 2005 Posts: 970

1. What we have now is a huge exception, not the rule.

2. You are owed nothing

Remember those things and you may do well.
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manu · Intermediate Crude Joined: Jul 26, 2006 Posts: 752

Kristen, sounds like you are ready to read the Bhagavad Gita. The second chapter is about the soul being different than the body. Once you understand that even a little, your depression and fear will go away and you can start your eternal journey. The soul changes bodies just as a man changes clothes. The soul does not belong in this temporary world of birth and death. So look inside yourself and dont worry so much about the external world.

FairMaiden

My thoughts are this: every generation of human civilization has been talking about the "end of civilization as they know it". And some generations, like those around for Easter Island or the end of the Roman Empire or the end of the Mayans - would be right. But the vast majority would be wrong Smile

It took the Romans 300-400 to completely collapse. It may take alot longer than anyone here is predicting. If you look at most predictions, they eventually come true but it takes alot longer than anyone predicted. For instance, global warming and climate change were suppose to happen by now according to the '90s movement. Yes, an argument could be made that its happening - but much slower than predicted.

If you paralyze yourself with pessimsm, then you rob yourself of living. Nothing is worth that. If an asteroid hit earth tomm, nothing your prepared mind can do about it...so what would you be saying, "I wish I'd done..." at that moment. Then do it!

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