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manu
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:45 am    Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I recently had a staph infection and put haritaki powder directly on the wound. I also took triphala (three ayurvedic herbs) with some ghee (clarified butter) internally. It took about ten days to completly heal.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:11 am    Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

manu wrote:
I recently had a staph infection and put haritaki powder directly on the wound. I also took triphala (three ayurvedic herbs) with some ghee (clarified butter) internally. It took about ten days to completly heal.


I don't know what haritaki is, but it sounds Japanese. It's fair to assume that the ayurvedic herbs come from India. And I don't know where you write from, but I suspect you live in neither of these places.

If you are serious about herbal medicine and peak oil, you should learn to use local herbs.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:43 am    Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I do use local herbs, in fact I grow most of my own. All the herbs that I mentioned are from India.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The basic minimum:

garlic - antiviral, antifungal, builds immunity, can be eaten or used on the skin (like for athlete's foot), tastes great. All alliums (onions, leeks, etc.) have these properties but not as potent.

ginger - for minor stomach complaints

generic pain relievers of your choice - if you're not allergic, an anti-inflammatory like aspirin or ibuprofen (better since kids can take ibuprofen too) will help tremendously for muscle/bone/tooth/ear pain. These can help with fever as well.

sterile dressings - can be made from cloth or can buy.

splints - these can be made on the spot, but it's nice to have them around in emergencies. Pad more than you think you should then pad some more. Any hard edges will cause problems. If in doubt (pain increasing, hand/foot turning colors or swelling), loosen it and get to a doctor.

tape (medical kind) - get paper tape and the regular kind, some people are allergic to the glue on the 'sticky' regular medical tape.

good tweezers - not the crap in the packaged first aid kits. Revlon makes excellent ones.

scissors - the sturdy 'paramedic' ones are good for cutting through clothing and bandages.

reading glasses - you do plan on living past 40, don't you? Go to a dollar store and get one of each strength. You can't help anyone if you can't see.

Don't forget things you or your family need on a day to day basis (YMMV): eyewash (if you have contacts, but I'd suggest getting a backup pair or two of glasses), catheters, vital medications (like heart medicines), parts for wheelchairs, etc.


Taking a first aid/CPR class is a no-brainer. Taking an EMT certification class is even better (some community colleges offer these). Other good ideas might be to apprentice with an herbalist, acupuncturist, or midwife. The more you know the less junk you need and the better you'll be able to take care of a situation.

Sterilizing things = boiling or steam

I agree with clean water washing of wounds. If you have time to boil then cool water that can be used for later washings. The first priority is to stop the bleeding then get the garbage out of the wound. The big mistake people make is not getting it all out. Anything left in there will cause infection.

Cauterizing = bad. Last resort only.

I would highly discourage cutting/suturing/gluing anything/putting stuff in wounds if you don't know what you're doing. Most wounds will heal without suturing, it just makes the scar prettier. Suturing dirty wounds and/or using contaminated suture material is a fast track to sepsis and death. If in doubt, find a doctor.

Please, no amateur surgery. Don't even think of going there. You're as likely to kill them as do any good.

Remember 'first do no harm'. The medical profession has gotten way away from this but it's a good thing to keep in mind.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:21 pm    Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

NTBKtrader wrote:
Anyone here have any recommendations on basic medicine, medical books, or maybe even herbal remedies?
Here's something possibly worth noting... Besides being good for bladder infections, cranberry juice seems to also be good for reducing and protecting against viral infections.

Cranberry juice constituents affect influenza virus adhesion and infectivity
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Cranberry juice contains high molecular weight materials (NDM) that inhibit bacterial adhesion to host cells as well as the co-aggregation of many oral bacteria. Because of its broad-spectrum activity, we investigated NDM's potential for inhibiting influenza virus adhesion to cells, and subsequent infectivity. Hemagglutination (HA) of red blood cells (RBC) caused by representatives of both influenza virus A subtypes (H1N1 and H3N2) and the B type was inhibited by NDM at concentrations of 125 μg/ml or lower, which is at least 20-fold lower than that usually found in cranberry juice. A dose–response effect of NDM on HA was demonstrated. The infectivity of the A and B types was significantly reduced by preincubation with NDM (250 μg/ml), as reflected by the lack of cytopathic effect on Madine-Darby canine kidney (MDCK) cells and the lack of HA activity in the media of infected cells. The effect of NDM was also tested after A or B type viruses were allowed to adsorb to and penetrate the cells. Various levels of reduction in virus tissue culture infective dose TCID50 were observed. The effect was most pronounced when NDM was added several times to the infected MDCK cells. Our cumulative findings indicate that the inhibitory effect of NDM on influenza virus adhesion and infectivity may have a therapeutic potential.
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Potential Antiviral Effect Of Cranberries Noted
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And it tastes better then garlic! Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I have an aversion to allopathy. I plan on stocking up on natural, holistic and herbal treatments from places like www.herbalhealer.com
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:53 pm    Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The basic minimum is a bunch of triple antibiotic ointment.

"Every cut every time"

Susan had blood poisoning a few years ago from a little wound and it was a bad thing.


"Every cut every time"
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:47 pm    Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I agree with Pops former advice of cleaning and treating wounds everytime. Our friend's toddler got a small cut that became infected with MRSA (methicillin resistant staph aureus)-which landed the child in the PICU septic with a very resistant bacteria. Unfortunately we have some "wicked bad" bugs out there that pretty much "laugh" at antibiotics that are thrown at them now. Pretty scarey stuff.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I recomend the manual Emergency Childbirth by White
It's short and easy to understand and it covers the basic info needed for the vast majority of births.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:28 am    Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Great. I read this today, after yesterday stabbing my finger pretty good with a utility knife while cutting cardboard outside. I did put some alcohol on the wound, and washed it good, but that was it. Probably be dead soon Smile

edit: It is amazing i haven't had any infections. I cut myself constantly and am always playing with woodchips, composts and digging holes. I really need to start using gloves more often.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:20 am    Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

There are a few great books out there for herbal medicine. One that I particularly like is The New Healing Herbs: Revised and Updated by Michael Castleman. Or almost any works by Andrew Weil.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:35 am    Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If any of you are diabetic, I found a good article on an ayurvedic website ayurvedasara.com
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Don't forget if you get cuts-especially stuff like dirty barb wire,etc-make sure your tetnus shot is current. If you don't have a primary doctor you can probably go down to your local health dept and get one.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:04 pm    Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I bought a suture kit even though I have no idea how to use it. I figure if the need arises there may be a person who could suture if they had the kit.

It's amazing how many different skills are available in even a fairly small group of people.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:16 pm    Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Lets be real with this people. How exactly can a person store a lifetime's supply of medications, especially for long term ongoing illnesses such as athsma, or diabetes?? I can't imagine how much fridge space a 25 year supply of insulin would take up, which also assumes energy available to power refridgeration!

How exactly could I stock up on say a 30 year supply of my athsma medications when I'm not a doctor and I can't write my own prescriptions. Just think of how quick the government would move in to prevent people from hoarding vital and limited medications.

What of all the people who need things like dialysis machines for blood diorders, never mind trying to get permit to put an x-ray machine in the basement of your house.

If the healthcare system is in collapse, most of the people who rely on healthcare to keep them alive are going to die. Although I believe, while we still have our democracy I think voters will hold the government accountable to make some types of healthcare and pharmaceuticals available even in the midst of economic and social collapse.
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