Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine
Bump. This is a useful thread.
I got a nasty puncture wound yesterday. Didn't think much about it, but now it looks like it's getting infected already. Probably have to go to the doctor tomorrow. Glad I already dug my winter garden and won't have much manual labor at work until the end of the week.
#1 lesson learned is the realization that my first aid skills have atrophied to near uselessness. I knew not to douse the wound in alcohol or hydrogen peroxide, but I didn't properly irrigate it or put any antibiotic on it, despite knowing the wound was probably dirty. Just washed it briefly in tap water and Dr. Bronner's soap, stopped the bleeding with pressure, then slapped a band-aid on it. Didn't even think to consult any of my medical books. Dumb dumb dumb.
#2 lesson learned was realizing how lacking my first aid kit is. I have a good backpacking kit plus a USGI M3 medic bag, but was running low on some basic stuff like gauze and I had almost zero antibiotics.
#3 lesson learned was really appreciating having health benefits. I went without most of my adult life, but have had them the last few years. Only used them twice, once for glasses, once after I got hit by a car while riding a bicycle. But I'll be using them again tomorrow or Monday. I don't want to gamble with this particular wound, as I think it may have the potential to go really bad if left untreated (it's on my right hand, and I'm right handed). Also rethinking a job I interviewed for yesterday, which doesn't include health benefits but does require a lot of manual labor.
If anyone has the inclination, I'd like to see their list of ingredients for a useful first aid kit, especially how you would treat infections. Smallpoxgirl especially. _________________ "A little stored food and Bob's your uncle." --TT
Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine
[quote="Loki"]Bump. This is a useful thread.
I got a nasty puncture wound yesterday. Didn't think much about it, but now it looks like it's getting infected already. Probably have to go to the doctor tomorrow. Glad I already dug my winter garden and won't have much manual labor at work until the end of the week.
#1 lesson learned is the realization that my first aid skills have atrophied to near uselessness. I knew not to douse the wound in alcohol or hydrogen peroxide, but I didn't properly irrigate it or put any antibiotic on it, despite knowing the wound was probably dirty. Just washed it briefly in tap water and Dr. Bronner's soap, stopped the bleeding with pressure, then slapped a band-aid on it. Didn't even think to consult any of my medical books. Dumb dumb dumb.
#2 lesson learned was realizing how lacking my first aid kit is. I have a good backpacking kit plus a USGI M3 medic bag, but was running low on some basic stuff like gauze and I had almost zero antibiotics.
#3 lesson learned was really appreciating having health benefits. I went without most of my adult life, but have had them the last few years. Only used them twice, once for glasses, once after I got hit by a car while riding a bicycle. But I'll be using them again tomorrow or Monday. I don't want to gamble with this particular wound, as I think it may have the potential to go really bad if left untreated (it's on my right hand, and I'm right handed). Also rethinking a job I interviewed for yesterday, which doesn't include health benefits but does require a lot of manual labor.
If anyone has the inclination, I'd like to see their list of ingredients for a useful first aid kit, especially how you would treat infections. Smallpoxgirl especially. [/quote
Check with your doctor first....then if okay buy a bottle of Hibiclens to have around for washing cuts and for prewashing before a surgery. Its supposed to help greatly with MRSA. Soap, water and
a wash with Hibiclins should decrease your chance for infections. Good luck ps Get a job with health benefits...your worth it
Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine
Loki wrote:
I'd like to see their list of ingredients for a useful first aid kit, especially how you would treat infections. Smallpoxgirl especially.
OK...I'll give it a go. I'm basing this on someone with some first aid experience, but nothing beyond first responder level. If you have additional training, add gear as appropriate.
I tend to think of it in different compartments:
Major Trauma Kit:
2 Isreali Bandages
1 tourniquet - For example CAT: link
1 pair sterile gloves
10 pairs non-sterile gloves
1 packet Celox
10 sterile 4x4 gauze
Minor trauma kit:
100 pairs non-sterile gloves
20 sterile 4x4 gauze
10 3" sterile roll gauze (e.g. Kerlex)
2 irrigation syringes
1 bottle Bactine
1 pair fine tip forceps
1 pair iris scissors
5 scalpels with #11 blades
1 bottle hydrogen peroxide
1 tube Bacitracin oitment
2 boxes sterile bandaids
10 Tegaderm dressings 4x4.75 inches
10 Telfa pads
3 packs Steri-strips
1 bottle tincture of benzoin
3 quarts chlorinated tap water
1 bottle Betadine solution
Miscellaneous:
2 bottle of hand sanitizer
1 roll 2" silk medical tape
1 roll 1" silk medical tape
1 roll duct tape
20 safety pins in assorted sizes
1 note pad
2 pens
1 thermometer - preferably non-electric
1 blood pressure cuff
1 stethoscope
1 dental first aid kit
1 first aid pocketbook
1 pair large EMT shears
1 flashlight w/ extra batteries
1 wool blanket
You also want to think about any health problems that you or people in your sphere of contact are prone to and prepare for those.
As to your question about infected puncture wounds, it's super difficult to avoid with punctures. The best thing you can do for that is probably to get some work gloves and protect your hands. If you do get a puncture, you want to try to irrigate deep down in there and get any foreign material out as best you can. This is one situation where I probably would irrigate the wound with peroxide. The bubbling action can help to get the debris out of the base of the wound. You definitely need an irrigation syringe to get down in there and clean the wound out. Other than that, I might put a little bacitracin on it and a bandaid or gauze dressing. Keep it clean and dry. Don't ever try to close a puncture wound. If you do start getting an infection, abscesses need to be opened up to let the pus come out. They get irrigated, and left open to drain with a clean dressing. Most of the time, such things will heal themselves. If starting to show signs of systemic infection - Red streaks, redness extending more than 0.5 inches from the wound, swollen lymph nodes, fever, feeling ill, or worsening pain and redness past 3 days after the injury, then systemic antibiotics are indicated. If you can talk a sympathetic doc into giving you a script, Septra would probably be the best overall antibiotic to have on hand for such occurrences. _________________ "We were standing on the edges
Of a thousand burning bridges
Sifting through the ashes every day
What we thought would never end
Now is nothing more than a memory
The way things were before
I lost my way" - OCMS
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:23 am Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine
Thanks a bunch SPG! Now I'm going to have to empty out my first aid kits and compare to your list. I know for a fact I don't have a lot of the items on the list.
On Saturday I drained my puncture wound, irrigated it, and put some over-the-counter topical triple antibiotic on it. Been keeping it clean and covered since then. Seems to have fixed the infection, thankfully. I hate going to the doctor (no offense).
Of course, I came down with a cold yesterday, but it's a good excuse to stay home and waste time on PO.com...... _________________ "A little stored food and Bob's your uncle." --TT
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine
Thanks much for the lists Smallpox.
I'm thinking I need to have some of that stuff around but didn't have the slightest idea what to get other than bandaids and antibiotic ointment. _________________ “In the Soviet Union, capitalism triumphed over communism. In this country, capitalism triumphed over democracy.”
[Fran Lebowitz
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: [Health] Basic Medicine
Loki wrote:
especially how you would treat infections.
Lots of soap and hot water, lots and lots of nice clean hot water. _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow." - jboogy
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Now I'm going to have to empty out my first aid kits and compare to your list. I know for a fact I don't have a lot of the items on the list.
