Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject: Pope blasts Europe for not having enough children
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MARIAZELL, Austria (AFP) - Pope Benedict XVI blasted Europeans for being selfish and not having enough children, in a sermon on Saturday at the 850-year-old pilgrimage site of Mariazell in Austria.
"Europe has become child-poor. We want everything for ourselves and place little trust in the future," the pope told a crowd of faithful from his canopied area at an open-air, afternoon mass that took place under heavy rain.
But Benedict held out hope, saying: "The earth will be deprived of a future only when the forces of the human heart and of reason illuminated by the heart are extinguished . . . Where God is, there is the future."
The pontiff had slammed abortion upon arriving in Austria Friday as the "very opposite" of human rights.
"The fundamental human right, the presupposition of every other right, is the right to life itself," he told members of the government and the diplomatic corps at the Hofburg, the seat of the Austrian presidency in Vienna.
Austrian Defence Minister Norbert Darabos said in a state television interview however Saturday that the Austrian government would not call for a change in the country's law which allows abortions.
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: Pope blasts Europe for not having enough children
His ignorant comments are particularly rich when juxtaposed with his efforts regarding the environment. "Let's enact measures to conserve 25% more energy, yet double the population. That's how to save the environment!"
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: Pope blasts Europe for not having enough children
If I were the leader of a group of lunatic fringe I would have his unholiness tortured yet kept alive for as long as medically possible going as far as to transplant his brain into the brain cavity of one of the younger cardinals and then tortured some more, wash rinse and repeat ad infinitum.
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:10 pm Post subject: Re: Pope blasts Europe for not having enough children
The career paths for 'managers' of our modern and contemporary corporations are entirely based on the principles of this particular organization, the catholic church, that's where it all comes from in the first place. Climb up that ladder... One of my favorite movies ever was Jacob's Ladder but that's another subject.
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:19 am Post subject: Re: Pope blasts Europe for not having enough children
Let's be quite clear what we are talking about here:
The Pope is advocating a three-hundred-Hitler holocaust.
Overpopulation is the root cause of 100% of our sustainability problems. Without population growth there is also no basis for economic growth.
For 100% of species, without exception, population overshoot of the resource base leads to population collapse or dieoff.
With PO and even moreso with the climate crisis, we are now in overshoot and headed for collapse. The sustainable population of Earth is on the order of about 2 - 3 billion humans living at approximately an Eastern European standard of living (check out Poland; most people there are actually quite comfortable; what they lack for the most part is the consumer excess we take for granted in the US).
Between the present overshot 6.5 billion and the sustainable 2 - 3 billion, the difference is about 3.5 to 4 billion. Those will be the casualties in the population collapse or dieoff.
In other words, we are looking at 3.5 to 4 billion people dying miserable nasty cruel deaths of disease, starvation, and war, during this and the next centuries.
That's something like a three-hundred-Hitler holocaust.
And the Pope is promoting it every time he encourages people to have more babies.
So as far as the Pope blasting Europe is concerned, IMHO someone ought to blast the Pope. Right between the eyes.* And the next one, and the next one, until one of them finally gets the message.
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*It is not, as far as I know, illegal to state an opinion in favor of the assassination of a foreign leader, much less of a religious official. We do after all call for the deaths of various Mullahs all the time, and the Pope is but a Mullah of a different stripe. As for those Mullahs in the Middle East who justify the oppression of women and the high birth rates in their own region, they too deserve a Vitamin Lead supplement right between the eyes.
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:42 am Post subject: Re: Pope blasts Europe for not having enough children
Sorry GG but overpopulation is far from the only problem.
For instance, unsustainable lifestyles i.e. the U.S. field of dreams (4.5% of the population using 26% of the worlds natural resources, producing 25% of the worlds pollution etc etc) is a prime factor.
We do not have to live this way and we are not stupid sheeple but have been dumbed down and led into this unsustainable dream state intentionally. I believe alot of people are excluding alot of things and clearly oversimplifying.
One thing that should give people pause is the fact that the elite/NWO is reality and one of their goals is to reduce the population significantly. I do not believe it is a coincidence that this theory coincides with what they have always desired.
Oh there might be a point of overshoot yet I have retreated from that stance, opened my mind, learned alot more and so far conclude that I was very wrong to believe it was so simple.
Please and by all means feel free to fire away with all the malthusian guns ablaze as I have done much homework and only wait for the right time to lay bare all of the inadequacies of this theory and the man responsible for it being widely accepted as fact.
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:54 am Post subject: Re: Pope blasts Europe for not having enough children
gg3 wrote:
In other words, we are looking at 3.5 to 4 billion people dying miserable nasty cruel deaths of disease, starvation, and war, during this and the next centuries.
That is going to happen whether Europe has more babies or not. I don't know where you live, but in Europe you might have noticed that the low birth rate results in massive immigration to sustain growth. Or in the US from Mexico, so whether the population growth actually comes from Europe or USA or is happening in a 3rd world county and gets exported to EU/US, doesn't matter that much. With the exception that I prefer to live within the culture and backdrop I grew up with and don't need a multi-culti feeling of pinatas and doener kepab all around me.
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That's something like a three-hundred-Hitler holocaust.
Yes, so what. Do you have any good plans to keep all 7 billion people alive? I sure don't. So whether its starvation or Adolf or some other nut, doesn't matter. By the way WW2 cost about 20M lives (don't remember, just from back of my head). Now image all those had babies and babies. Don't you feel you want to thank Adolf all of a sudden ?
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:52 am Post subject: Re: Pope blasts Europe for not having enough children
ohanian wrote:
Bloody non-multiplying europeans!
Why can't they just behave like Muslims
and play the game of "count my babies"!
bit short but I think I understand the sentiments.
People of all colours in the rich western nations are happier having wealth , cash , than the difficulty of raising 2.1 children ( where did I put the 0.1 ? ) . The population growth issue is the biggest headache of all time . The major countries and their people who are "growing" could really do without that kind of growth.
but religion and other factors such as culture ( historically ours was until recently 5-6 babies because of desease) and access to modern ( ok shoot me down on that one) medicenes has allowed them to be feckless with population.
humanly I can see the issue but I cannot see anyway out because of the "politics", other than a multiple "black death" die off.
not nice at all.
you can lead a horse to water only to see it wee in it.....
<sigh>
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) . The population growth issue is the biggest headache of all time . The major countries and their people who are "growing" could really do without that kind of growth.
