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midnight-gamer
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Collective Burn Out from PO Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

This maybe a little off your topic but, adopting a survivors mentality would help. Animals have a basic instinct to survive. People have gotten well away from that in our modern lives. When forced with taking action, or dying, the way to survive is to dig down deep, and try to do what is needed to live.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Collective Burn Out from PO Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

TheDude wrote:
Heineken wrote:
OR is too expensive, except for the western part, which is one of the driest places on Earth.


Ah, your map's upside down Heink. Eastern Oregon is the cheap part in the rain shadow of the Cascades. There's dry, and there's dry, too. My family's been farming wheat in the northern part since the 1880s. There are some plush valleys in the Wallowas. Down in Malheur County you can hook up with some of the only Basques in the country.


Well, of course you're absolutely right and I got it bass-ackwards. This happens to me again and again, since I'm so used to my East Coast orientation.
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