It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create an illusion of rapid global warming. Other scientists of the same environmental whacko type jumped into the circle to support and broaden the “research” to further enhance the totally slanted, bogus global warming claims. Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going. Soon they claimed to be a consensus.
Environmental extremists, notable politicians among them, then teamed up with movie, media and other liberal, environmentalist journalists to create this wild “scientific” scenario of the civilization threatening environmental consequences from Global Warming unless we adhere to their radical agenda. Now their ridiculous manipulated science has been accepted as fact and become a cornerstone issue for CNN, CBS, NBC, the Democratic Political Party, the Governor of California, school teachers and, in many cases, well informed but very gullible environmentally conscientious citizens. Only one reporter at ABC has been allowed to counter the Global Warming frenzy with one 15 minute documentary segment.
I do not oppose environmentalism. I do not oppose the political positions of either party. However, Global Warming, i.e. Climate Change, is not about environmentalism or politics. It is not a religion. It is not something you “believe in.” It is science; the science of meteorology. This is my field of life-long expertise. And I am telling you Global Warming is a non-event, a manufactured crisis and a total scam. I say this knowing you probably won’t believe a me, a mere TV weatherman, challenging a Nobel Prize, Academy Award and Emmy Award winning former Vice President of United States. So be it...
I love a good, contentious debate. But I've had to ask myself, "Why on Earth would you stake a position in front the locomotive of Global Warming?"
I think it was because I watched Al Gore's film, An Inconvenient Truth with disappointment and disgust. It was cloying and overly emotional. It assumed the truth it wished to portray rather than lay out the case for man-made global warming in stepwise fashion. Cloying emotionality in such things strikes me as manipulative and disingenuous. What else do you expect from a godamn politician?
This is frustrating because the scientific investigation of Earth's distant and near past climate history and present climate change is a vastly interesting and complex study indeed. The ice cores and lake sediments; the tree rings, the micro organism cultures; the fossil record, the computer models... All the ingenius experimental tests which scientists have devised to wring out the truth... all these things are truly fascinating and completely worthwhile. Only a relatively small number of scientists worldwide are working actively on understanding climate dynamics past and present - and there is very significant debate within this group. And this is the debate that is interesting!
But Al's film and the public treatment of the Global Warming issue will not have a careful look at the work of this relatively small group of scientists who have significant disagreements. Rather, it relies on the IPCC's collective numbers of onlookers to this work - who are not directly involved. And that's because the issue is politicized and all these onlookers know which side of the bread has the butter. Al Gore's argument basically says, "Let's take all the scientists who agree with us and put them on THIS side of the scale. And then let's put all these other scientists on the OTHER side of the scale... And let's see which one weighs more!".
But that's not usually how the contest of ideas is won. Historically, it's usually the crowd that is wrong!
Let me reassure you: I think the world's human population is probably in overshoot; I think natural resource destruction, pollution and our effect on the environment is alarming and growing more and more severe; and I think that human being's are responsible for one of the largest ongoing species extinctions in Earth's recent memory. None of this convinces me that human beings contribute significantly to the Earth's global temperature - and I certainly do not believe that sea levels will rise by 20 feet by 2050.
Nevertheless, I think Patrick Michaels is correct when he claims that the scientific community can easily get funding for any study under the sun merely by linking it to Anthropogenic Global Warming.
And, in the back of my mind, I have always suspected that Peak Oil, as an inevitable phenomenon in human affairs, has been understood by the various PTB for decades. I think it's a whole lot easier, politically, for them to talk about Global Warming rather than the effects of Peak Oil. _________________ "May you live in interesting times"
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:56 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming: The Greatest SCAM in History
Fully agree with you except about population overshoot...
I have told my relatives since years that global warming is a distraction to and a way to cover up peak oil...
Basically the most important problem of our civilization is that we can not continue to consume so much energy like we do today, until there is a revolutionary, abundant new energy source that becomes exploitable. (Maybe nuclear fusion ? But when ?)
The people concerned about oil production claim that is because oil production will decline, which makes sense and is backed by large amount of data.
The people who hype global warming want the people to believe otherwise: that there is a huge energetic abundance and that excessive consumption of oil and fossil fuels will cause catastrophic environmental problems. Here is more or less what global warming hypers say: "if we continue to increase our fossil fuel consumption like in the past, there might be bad weather in the following centuries..." My answer to this: "Energy consumption can no more continue to increase. 'Solutions' to fight global warming attack the wrong problem".
The global warming theory becomes more and more challenged from all parts. Scientists now see that world temperature probably peaked in 1998 and that the world will get cooler in the next decades...
The people who hype global warming now are like the people who hyped the new ice age in the 70s, just as the temperature were beginning to increase again...
Instead of preparing for global warming, people should prepare themselves to face cold winters coupled with energy shortages and thus problems to heat homes... Once people discover this, they will be furious at the people who hyped global warming....
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 6:23 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming: The Greatest SCAM in History
patrick_b wrote:
Once people discover this, they will be furious at the people who hyped global warming....
Nah, most people have very short attention time spans - they will just forget about it as soon as they are not constantly reminded by the media.
Personally I'm not certain about the degree of calculation behind the AGW hype. It might be a subconscious process altogether, but there might also be think-tanks deep inside the national states who are fully aware of the oil situation and try to produce a calculated remedy in the form of AGW-hype.
In any case the AGW-hype wont produce one iota of emission curbs as long as the monetary system is left out of the plan. At the end of the day, it's the bankers who set the agenda, and they require interest payments and we are forced to produce "growth" in order to pay interest. If we don't pay interest we wont have any money. Simple as that.
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 6:25 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming: The Greatest SCAM in History
The problem is that the correct term for what is happening to the world today isn't very catchy or easy to grasp. "Increased climate extremes" (sudden transitions from summer weather to winter, massive disparities in temperature from one day to the next and from day to night etc.) doesn't sound as appealing as "global <xxx>". Although, it is worth noting that one of Murphy's laws postulates: "If an explanation is short and simple enough to be readily comprehensible, it's probably wrong."
Joined: Sep 17, 2006 Posts: 633 Location: No man's land
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:29 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming: The Greatest SCAM in History
Does John Coleman work for the Weather Channel anymore or is he retired? How old is John Coleman? It is my experience that older folks have a much harder time grasping newer concepts.
Let's hear from the current senior meteorologist at the Weather Channel, Stu Ostro.
Quote:
“I was a certified global warming skeptic…[but] I eventually came to the judgment that I was wrong and global warming was real, largely caused by human activities and profoundly changing the planet on which we live,” admitted Stu Ostro, senior meteorologist and director of weather communications for The Weather Channel.
So is Stu Ostro one of the dastardly and wacko scientists that Coleman refers to?
Is the founder of the Weather Channel calling the senior meteorologist at the Weather Channel a wacko?
I admit to being humored. _________________ "It is no measure of health to be deemed sane in an insane society" J. Krishnamurti
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:38 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming: The Greatest SCAM in History
POAlex wrote:
Makes sense if the true motivation behind this is really about power.
Global socialism repackaged?
What power? When it comes to political and economic power the neo liberals and conservatives sure have a whole lot more of it.
And what socialism too, sure awareness on this issure grew faster on the left as the right was quite happy to ignore the issue until very recently. So a moment dominated by the left is sure to seem as having socialist tendencies to a right winger.
But I dont see global warming advocates calling for a new socialism. _________________ I play the cards I'm dealt, though I sometimes bluff.
Joined: Sep 16, 2004 Posts: 4449 Location: Southwest WI
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:44 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming: The Greatest SCAM in History
My own view on it is that know matter what humans do, the climate will change and will keep changing until the sun engulfs the Earth or another comet or asteroids hits it. All you have to do is look to the ice cores and see that ice ages are a common in the history of Earth. I believe there is way too much hype over global warming and we should be concentrating on bigger issues, like oil running out! _________________ "Oil is going up because we use too much oil, and the capacity to replace reserves is dwindling"
-President Bush 11/07/07
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:35 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming: The Greatest SCAM in History
It seems counter-intuitive to imagine that changes in the chemical composition of the atmosphere would produce no changes in climate. _________________ "When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen F Roberts.
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:52 am Post subject: Re: Global Warming: The Greatest SCAM in History
Aaron wrote:
It seems counter-intuitive to imagine that changes in the chemical composition of the atmosphere would produce no changes in climate.
Goes both ways I guess - changes in climate produce rather dramatic changes in the chemical composition of the atmosphere. We have annual climate changes here which change the amounts of water vapor by a factor of 100 or more. Not to mention the glacial periods...
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Global Warming: The Greatest SCAM in History
Quote:
Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create an illusion of rapid global warming.
Could someone please elaborate on what these motives are, and why they would drive the majority of these dastardly scientists to scam us all?
Joined: Jul 12, 2004 Posts: 169 Location: New Zealand
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:34 pm Post subject: Re: Global Warming: The Greatest SCAM in History
Good post Carlhole !
Whenever I have posted info about the monumental weakness of the AGW argument I have had "hockey stick" weilding maniacs jumping all over me. Very interesting to see this is not happening to you, so there could be a sea change happening !
Mat Simmons did say that by the end of the year Peak Oil would overtake global warming in public consciousness - looks like he will be right.
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: Global Warming: The Greatest SCAM in History
I agree, AGW is a huge scam.
All the people who pass the most stringest scientific peer-review criteria in the world and get published Nature are liars.
They pull stuff out of their hats, they lie and distort.
However, the guys (like icecap) who are climate change deniers, funded by energy companies, don't have any respectable peer-reviewed papers are carrying the torch of truth!
It's a great thing they also have valid and empirically proven theories that explain the current warming (esp. sunspots that unfortunately don't agree with the satellite measurement data, probably because the data is skewed again by those Nature liars).
Thank god we have all these people with industry backing telling it like it is!
What do we need this science for anyway?
Let's just all forget about the climate phenomenon and data from the field, because it's all probably been distorted anyway by these scientists.
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