Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:42 pm Post subject: Food Depletion Statistics
Can anyone find statistics on who supplies what of world grain supplies and other ag? How much domestic production is consumed in each country versus imported? etc etc I can't seem to find that info. thanks
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:57 pm Post subject: Re: Food Depletion Statistics
NTBKtrader wrote:
Can anyone find statistics on who supplies what of world grain supplies and other ag? How much domestic production is consumed in each country versus imported? etc etc I can't seem to find that info. thanks
It has a collection of maps that show the size of countries based on their food export/import situation.
Play around a bit and see for yourself.
It's incredible to see how dependent the Middle East, Northern Africa, South America, India, etc. are on food imports. _________________ "www.peakoil.com is the Myspace of the Apocalypse."
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:58 am Post subject: Re: Food Depletion Statistics
I usually come across an article regarding this every year and every year it's worse. Grain stocks are a pretty good indicator of food depletion as grains are used in most products and meat prices are pretty strongly linked. Of course grain production for Ethanol may seem to skew these numbers, but I don't think it does. We choose to produce fuel from our food, and then the food becomes scarce. That's still qualifies as a shortage, even if it is due to mismanagement and fall out from other energy shortage problems. There have been tortilla riots in Mexico this year due to ethanol hiking up prices...
energybulletin wrote:
World Grain Stocks Fall to 57 Days of Consumption: Grain Prices Starting to Rise (2006)
This year’s world grain harvest is projected to fall short of consumption by 61 million tons, marking the sixth time in the last seven years that production has failed to satisfy demand. As a result of these shortfalls, world carryover stocks at the end of this crop year are projected to drop to 57 days of consumption, the shortest buffer since the 56-day-low in 1972 that triggered a doubling of grain prices.
And I'm going to post a little more about the the problems with food production today. I think some information for predictive purposes might be useful, since it may give you an idea of where these "food depletion statistics" are headed.
And here are a few links that suggest what we have to look forward to:
steam_cannon wrote:
Presently with our good weather, the world is drawing down stored grain to make up for demand.
http://www.energybulletin.net/17261.html
How low can food production go down before there are shortages and ultimately famine. It's been suggested that if we can still ship food we could all get by with only 50% production. Personally, I'm not so optimistic.
James Lovelock: “We are on the edge of the greatest die-off humanity has ever seen,” said Lovelock. “We will be lucky if 20% of us survive what is coming. "
Global Dimming and extreme climate change
"But perhaps the most alarming aspect of global dimming is that it may have led scientists to underestimate the true power of the greenhouse effect."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4171591.stm
Fertilizer Prices Soar
"The cost of anhydrous ammonia has nearly doubled, due to the skyrocketing price of natural gas, which is used to manufacture the popular nitrogen fertilizer."
http://nationalhogfarmer.com/mag/farming_manure_value_rises/
I like to eat great cheeses and wines from France and Italy, and I enjoy tropical fruits in the middle of winter. When the U.S. was a dominant food supplier, this seemed rather like the natural order of things. But now U.S. imports of meat and grains -- to name two commodities that used to be our strength -- are rising. America now imports two dollars of feed grains for every three dollars of exports, and imports $2.5 billion more red meats than it exports, ERS data show.
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Food Depletion Statistics
Are there any public companies trading on the stock exchange that are agricultural producers of either corn, wheat or rice? If so, I would appreciate any names you have and recommendations.
If you dig around the site and the links there is some excellent stats
this is the mother of all agricultural statistics all the rest derive from it
The important stuff in decreasing order is
Wheat , rice , coarse grains , corn and potatoes
the last harvest has been a disaster , both north and south
harvest cycle is six month in front of the price cycle , the "growing season " is also a bit different for some but generally understood to be from the first of june to the end of may ,
the biggest exporters are U.S. Canada , Australia , Argentina
the current price madness has many causes , the 2008/09 harvest so far , promise to be a bumper with a price collapse
there is a phosphate peak on the horizon and to be sure we are driving over a cliff , food wise it will all happen in the fullness of time , the poors will oscillate between malnutrition and starvation ,
The richs between normality and expensive steaks
there will be more and more poors and they will get closer to the front door
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