I think this is the beginnings of an economy based on perpetual growth and fossil fuel energy running headlong into geological energy constraints. Basically I see an undulatory downward path for the rest of my life. From here out, I think any rallies in our economic condition are going to be met with spiking commodity prices that knock us right back down.
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:01 am Post subject: Is it safe to say that crude oil price is rising faster than
Is it safe to say that crude oil price is rising faster than the depreciation of dollars?
OPEC keep saying part of the reason oil price is at record high is because the depreciation of dollars, but the price of crude oil is rising way faster than the depreciation of dollars. right?
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:07 am Post subject: Re: Is it safe to say that crude oil price is rising faster
US dollar depriation against what?
Even if you look at the dollar index (which is measured agaist a basket of currencies) this does not give a 100% accurate picture as different nations import different amounts of oil. So just because a currency has gone stronger, it is hard to say what impact that had on total global oil consumption.
Safest just to say
1) dropping US$ does drive up oil price as the oil becomes cheaper for holders of appreciating foreign currency.
2) Inflation - more money in circulation looking for stuff to buy drives up prices
3) and of course general supply/demand.
Add to this trader sentiment.
Figuring out what cause resulted in what amount of price change is futile.
To support what you are asking for I think you will find that oil price has been trending up at a steeper rate for longer than the US$ has been falling. That suggest that oil price rise is more than just dollar weakness. _________________ It's not a bailout, it's a buy-in" - Nancy Pelosi
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: Is it safe to say that crude oil price is rising faster
Well, I have been keeping track of the Brent price in US dollars for quite a while, and at times converted the price to Swedish kronor.
Some dates and figures, Brent in Swedish currency SEK
Jan 2004 217
Dec 2004 309
Dec 2005 430
Dec 2006 427
Aug 2007 483
Oct 2 2007 522
Nov 28 2007 573
Yes, certainly over this period, Brent has become more expensive also when converted to Swedish currency. I am pretty sure you would get a similar result if you converted to Euros.
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