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Another find.. Fresh oil and gas find in Brazil: (updateing)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Another find.. Fresh oil and gas find in Brazil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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They *have* already drilled several successful exploration wells into these fields, so it's not like it's impossible. There are already several deepwater fields elsewhere in the world already in production, so it's not as if Petrobras is doing something that's never been done before.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Another find.. Fresh oil and gas find in Brazil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

OilFinder2 wrote:
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They *have* already drilled several successful exploration wells into these fields, so it's not like it's impossible. There are already several deepwater fields elsewhere in the world already in production, so it's not as if Petrobras is doing something that's never been done before.


Which ones are those? can you tell me the deepwater fields already in production, comparable to this one? Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Another find.. Fresh oil and gas find in Brazil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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so it's not as if Petrobras is doing something that's never been done before.


True

But that doesn't mean they are any good at it. Smile

Wanna see Petrobras last attempt at deepwater?





Brasil oil rig sinks

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Petrobras had hoped the P-36 rig would be a demonstration of its deepwater production expertise

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1229882.stm

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Another find.. Fresh oil and gas find in Brazil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Uhh, that sinking oil rig was 7 years ago.

Here's a recent successful well drilled by Petrobras in their Jupiter formation. 2,187 meters of water, a total of 5,252 meters to their target:
http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=55591

Here's one of the Tupi wells. 2,140 meters of water plus another 3,000-4,000 meters of salt and rock:
http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=41092

No sinking rigs in either one. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Another find.. Fresh oil and gas find in Brazil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

eXpat wrote:
OilFinder2 wrote:
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They *have* already drilled several successful exploration wells into these fields, so it's not like it's impossible. There are already several deepwater fields elsewhere in the world already in production, so it's not as if Petrobras is doing something that's never been done before.


Which ones are those? can you tell me the deepwater fields already in production, comparable to this one? Thanks

4,400 feet of water offshore Malaysia, in production:
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And a whole article on Gulf of Mexico deepwater activity:
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As of early 2006, there were 118 deepwater projects on production. Production from deepwater by the end of 2004 was approximately 950,000 barrels of oil and 3.8 billion cubic feet of natural gas per day. More than 980 deepwater exploration wells have been drilled since 1995 and at least 126 deepwater discoveries have been announced from that effort. In the last six years, there have been 22 discoveries in water depths greater than 7,000ft (2,134m), with 11 of those discoveries in the last two years.

[...]

High production rates have been a driving force behind the success of deepwater operations. For example, a Shell Bullwinkle well produced approximately 5,000 barrels of oil per day (BOPD) in 1992. In 1994, a Shell Auger well set a new record, producing about 10,000 BOPD. From 1994 to mid 1999, maximum deepwater oil production rates continued to climb. BP’s Horn Mountain project came online in early 2002 in a water depth of 5,400ft (1,646m), with a single well maximum rate of more than 30,000 BOPD. Since mid 2002, oil production rates have declined in the 1,500–4,999ft (457–1,524m) water-depth interval. However, production rates have increased steeply in the greater than and equal to 5,000ft (1,524m) water-depth interval. The record daily oil production rate (for a single well) is 41,532 BOPD (Troika).

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Many others in addition to those.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Another find.. Fresh oil and gas find in Brazil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Here's Petrobras already starting up production in a field under 1,800 meters of water:
http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=53457

Another Petrobras field in 1,386 meters of water started production last fall:
http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=53085

Another Petrobras field started production in 1,000-1,600 meters last fall:
http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=51324

And the CFO of Petrobras says 1 million bpd for Tupi is "not out of reach."
http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=53177

So these Tupi/Carioca/Jupiter fields are only another 2-300 meters deeper than the deepest one already in production by Petrobras.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Another find.. Fresh oil and gas find in Brazil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

OilFinder2 wrote:
Here's Petrobras already starting up production in a field under 1,800 meters of water:
http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=53457

Another Petrobras field in 1,386 meters of water started production last fall:
http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=53085

Another Petrobras field started production in 1,000-1,600 meters last fall:
http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=51324

And the CFO of Petrobras says 1 million bpd for Tupi is "not out of reach."
http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=53177

So these Tupi/Carioca/Jupiter fields are only another 2-300 meters deeper than the deepest one already in production by Petrobras.


Great research OilFinder2. I read about the "Roncador" production that is already going on (almost 1,900m) of water. There is a nice graph (see the detail of the Christ statue on the left for comparison Very Happy ), but is goes only until 2003. So, I hope they are now producing even deeper, but I do not know for sure.



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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 1:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Another find.. Fresh oil and gas find in Brazil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

--> Bloomberg <--
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Petrobras to Start Output at Tupi Ahead of Schedule
By Joe Carroll and Monica Bertran

May 5 (Bloomberg) -- Petroleo Brasileiro SA, Brazil's state-controlled oil company, plans to begin pumping crude from its 8 billion-barrel Tupi field in 2009, a year ahead of schedule, and to start its Carioca field in four to five years.

A test well at the offshore Tupi field will produce about 20,000 barrels of oil a day starting in next year's first quarter, Chief Executive Officer Jose Sergio Gabrielli said today in an interview in Houston. Production will reach 100,000 barrels a day by the end of 2010, he said.

Technical challenges involved in tapping crude beneath thousands of meters of rock and salt aren't insurmountable, Gabrielli said. The company will announce an increase in June in its $112.7 billion, 5-year capital budget to fund the work at Tupi, the Western Hemisphere's largest petroleum discovery since 1976, and other offshore prospects, he said.

[...]

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There are 7 or 8 prospects in the area of the Atlantic Ocean where Tupi and Carioca are located, Gabrielli said. Other producers exploring that area for oil and gas include Exxon Mobil Corp., Chevron Corp., BG Group Plc and Repsol YPF SA.

``The hypothesis we have is that they are very large reserves, but we don't know,'' Gabrielli said. The increase in capital spending will be ``a lot,'' he said. ``We need more rigs, and they are very expensive right now.''

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 2:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Another find.. Fresh oil and gas find in Brazil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Oil megaprojects lists Tupi Ph. 1 starting in May 2009, 20 kbpd first oil. 2009 page was last updated April 28th, so I don't see why this is news.
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:02 am    Post subject: Re: Another find.. Fresh oil and gas find in Brazil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Any geologists here need a job? Warm, tropical location, with plenty of easy, attractive women. Wink

--> Bloomberg <--
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Petrobras Hiring 14,000 Geologists, Roughnecks for New Fields
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May 7 (Bloomberg) -- Petroleo Brasileiro SA, Brazil's state-controlled oil company, plans to add 14,000 engineers, geologists and roughnecks within three years as it develops the biggest crude discovery in the Western Hemisphere since 1976.

Petrobras, as the company is known, plans to expand its workforce 23 percent to about 74,000, surpassing Chevron Corp., the second-largest U.S. oil producer. The hiring binge is part of a $112.7 billion expansion that may allow Brazil to overtake the output of all OPEC members except Saudi Arabia.

Petrobras lacks the workers needed to tap billions of barrels that lie in the offshore oil finds. The company is trying to hire more than a dozen people a day amid intensifying competition for skilled oil workers after crude prices surged to a record.

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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject: Re: Another find.. Fresh oil and gas find in Brazil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

OilFinder2 wrote:
Any geologists here need a job? Warm, tropical location, with plenty of easy, attractive women. Wink

--> Bloomberg <--
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Petrobras Hiring 14,000 Geologists, Roughnecks for New Fields
By Joe Carroll

May 7 (Bloomberg) -- Petroleo Brasileiro SA, Brazil's state-controlled oil company, plans to add 14,000 engineers, geologists and roughnecks within three years as it develops the biggest crude discovery in the Western Hemisphere since 1976.

Petrobras, as the company is known, plans to expand its workforce 23 percent to about 74,000, surpassing Chevron Corp., the second-largest U.S. oil producer. The hiring binge is part of a $112.7 billion expansion that may allow Brazil to overtake the output of all OPEC members except Saudi Arabia.

Petrobras lacks the workers needed to tap billions of barrels that lie in the offshore oil finds. The company is trying to hire more than a dozen people a day amid intensifying competition for skilled oil workers after crude prices surged to a record.

[...]


Haha, good luck with that. 14,000 people!!?? They will be lucky if they can find 1,400. Lots of good engineers in Brazil, but few with experience in oil development. Even fewer if Petrobras requires English skills so they can work together with foreign staff.

Also, they have to compete with Vale (CVRD), CSA, Usiminas, Eletrobras and other giants there for the best employees.

Skills shortage is a bitch! It has been a while since I began wondering whether the most critical problem regarding peak oil is actually the lack of resources - not oil, but equipment and people.
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:26 am    Post subject: Re: Another find.. Fresh oil and gas find in Brazil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Well not all of those 14,000 are gonna be geologists and engineers. That number also includes "roughnecks." I guess that means laborers and such working on the rigs.
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 2:55 am    Post subject: Re: Another find.. Fresh oil and gas find in Brazil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Well not all of those 14,000 are gonna be geologists and engineers. That number also includes "roughnecks." I guess that means laborers and such working on the rigs.


That's true. Brazil has a lot on unemployment (8-9%), so it will not be hard to find the so-called "roughnecks". But... low skilled labor is really low-skilled in Brazil. Education is very unequal - if you have some money, your kids can go to a private high school that will give them a better education than you will find in most "developed" countries. And from there they can go a public university and get also a very good education - this time for free. Crazy, isn't it?

However, if you go to a public high school, you will barely know how to write a sentence after year 12. Maths? What is that? English? I are, You is.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Another find.. Fresh oil and gas find in Brazil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Misc items from the land of Samba.

--> Petrobras Says Roncador Field May Produce 480,000 Barrels a Day <--
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Petroleo Brasileiro SA, Brazil's state-controlled oil company, said the Roncador offshore field may produce more than 480,000 barrels of oil a day in 2014.

Petrobras expects the Roncador field will reach production of 380,000 barrels of oil a day in December 2008, the Brazilian oil company said on its Agencia Petrobras Web site yesterday. Petrobras said production at that field is due to peak in 2014.


--> Petrobras is near deals on 15 to 17 rigs-analysts <--
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Brazil's state oil company Petrobras is close to issuing letters of intent for as many as 17 new offshore drilling rigs, U.S.-based analysts said.

"We are hearing speculation that Petrobras will announce letters of intent for as many as 15 to 17 newbuild drillships and semisubmersibles before the end of this week," Bill Herbert, an analyst with Simmons & Co Int'l, wrote on Friday, citing industry sources.

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--> Report: Brazil wants OPEC membership <--
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Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva believes his nation wants to join OPEC to help bring down oil prices, a leading German weekly quoted him as saying Friday.

Silva said in the interview published in Der Spiegel news magazine that his nation plans to exploit massive deep-water oil reserves discovered near Rio de Janeiro.

"Then Brazil will become a major oil exporter," Silva said in an advance copy of the interview to be published Saturday. "We want to join OPEC and to try to make oil cheaper."

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Another find.. Fresh oil and gas find in Brazil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Petroleo Brasileiro SA, Brazil's state-controlled oil company, leased about 80 percent of the world's deepest-drilling offshore rigs to explore prospects including the Western Hemisphere's biggest discovery in decades.

Petrobras, as the Rio de Janeiro-based company is known, is hiring rigs that can drill in at least 3,000 meters (9,800 feet) of water, Chief Executive Officer Jose Sergio Gabrielli said in an interview last week. The world has 21 such vessels, according to Rigzone.com, which tracks the offshore drilling industry.


Better starting building new oil rigs. The new frontier is now deep-sea exploration.

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