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Do you believe that cold fusion is real?
Yes
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No
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Not sure
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What is cold fusion?
4%
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JJ2000426
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:34 am    Post subject: Only Salvation From Peak Oil is Solid State Nuclear Fusion! Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Solid state nuclear fusion, otherwise known as cold fusion, is the ONLY realistic solution to peak oil.

I know what you are thinking. In the MSM progaganda, cold fusion is called a big science hoax ever since it was first announced in 1989. But the reality is in 18 years, numerous experiments have proven beyond reasonable doubt that cold fusion is REAL. Research interests are picking up quietly and rapidly in recent years

American Physical Society sponsored cold fusion conferences in 2007. See the links here and here. The endorsement of APS is a very big deal. APS would NEVER sponsor something that could be perceived as pseudo science, unless there is credible experimental support as real science.

Cold fusion uses palladium. Palladium is also used in the booming hydrogen economy and fuel cell technology. There are very good reasons to believe there is a palladium super bull. Time to buy some PAL and SWC stocks if you want to play palladium.

Watch this YouTube Video to learn more about cold fusion.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:57 am    Post subject: Re: Only Salvation From Peak Oil is Solid State Nuclear Fusi Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Read the APS 2007 abstracts on the cold fusion conferences:
APS 2007 on Cold Fusion
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:27 am    Post subject: Re: Only Salvation From Peak Oil is Solid State Nuclear Fusi Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If fusion is fair game again, why isn't perpetual motion on the list?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:52 am    Post subject: Re: Only Salvation From Peak Oil is Solid State Nuclear Fusi Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If you are dealing with the idea of it being the salvation from Peak Oil the question should not be 'whether it is real?' but 'whether it is scaleable in the time required?'
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: Only Salvation From Peak Oil is Solid State Nuclear Fusi Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

There is no salvation to PO.
Cold fusion does not work, and even if it does, it solves nothing.
OK we will warm swimming pool made of heavy water by few degrees with few tons of palladium input.
So what?

PO, GW, peak phosphates etc are telling us that so called modern life style must end.
The faster, the better.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:54 am    Post subject: Re: Only Salvation From Peak Oil is Solid State Nuclear Fusi Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Not only do I believe in cold fusion, I feel this thread is absolute proof of the phenomena. Cold fusion is when a palladium broker with a very cold heart uses a obscure but interesting phenomena to fuse your cold hard cash to his hot little hands. This is perfectly logical since we all know that cold hands means a warm heart; the cold fusion broker's hot little hands demand the balance of being anchored by a frosty heart. This is just my opinion, and of course I risk totally missing the big kill associated with having my money down on cold fusion in the near term.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Only Salvation From Peak Oil is Solid State Nuclear Fusi Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Phew ... thats a relief ... so where can I buy a working version of one of these cold fusion power plants.

The sad truth is the fusion power is decades away ... and that is being optimistic. Calling it a salvation may be a tad premature.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:49 am    Post subject: Re: Only Salvation From Peak Oil is Solid State Nuclear Fusi Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

From what I've heard, it has always been about 30 years out. Now, people in the know are saying that it really is 30 years in the future to get it to work. So whatever that is worth... Something about what is learned from ITER, and what is learned from the one after that, then it should be able to be commercial. That may have been "hot-fusion", as well, don't remember.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:53 am    Post subject: Re: Only Salvation From Peak Oil is Solid State Nuclear Fusi Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I had always been skeptical about cold fusion, until I learned that for the first time in 18 years, the APS, American Physical Society, actually sponsored two cold fusion discussion sessions during the March Meetings in 2007.

The APS endorsement is really a big deal. They will never sponsor anything that has no scientific proof. If APS starts to believe in cold fusion, then people should pay attention.

Some researchers spend 18 years of time researching it. If it is a total hoax, don't you think it is rather boring for some one to spend 18 years to perpertrate a hoax, one that has already been ridiculed in 1989? There must be some truth if some one continue to work on it for 18 years.

If cold fusion is real, it is not even remote that it could become a commercial reality. Some reports claim they can already run the experiments sustainably for several weeks at a time, generating hundreds times more energy than the input. That's pretty close to being commercially practical.

Is there a third route to produce nuclear energy?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:56 am    Post subject: Re: Only Salvation From Peak Oil is Solid State Nuclear Fusi Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I had always been skeptical about cold fusion, until I learned that for the first time in 18 years, the APS, American Physical Society, actually sponsored two cold fusion discussion sessions during the March Meetings in 2007.

The APS endorsement is really a big deal. They will never sponsor anything that has no scientific proof. If APS starts to believe in cold fusion, then people should pay attention.

Some researchers spend 18 years of time researching it. If it is a total hoax, don't you think it is rather boring for some one to spend 18 years to perpertrate a hoax, one that has already been ridiculed in 1989? There must be some truth if some one continue to work on it for 18 years.

If cold fusion is real, it is not even remote that it could become a commercial reality. Some reports claim they can already run the experiments sustainably for several weeks at a time, generating hundreds times more energy than the input. That's pretty close to being commercially practical.

Is there a third route to produce nuclear energy?

The article is actually on PeakOil.com too.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:00 am    Post subject: Re: Only Salvation From Peak Oil is Solid State Nuclear Fusi Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I had always been skeptical about cold fusion, until I learned that for the first time in 18 years, the APS, American Physical Society, actually sponsored two cold fusion discussion sessions during the March Meetings in 2007.

The APS endorsement is really a big deal. They will never sponsor anything that has no scientific proof. If APS starts to believe in cold fusion, then people should pay attention.

Some researchers spend 18 years of time researching it. If it is a total hoax, don't you think it is rather boring for some one to spend 18 years to perpertrate a hoax, one that has already been ridiculed in 1989? There must be some truth if some one continue to work on it for 18 years.

If cold fusion is real, it is not even remote that it could become a commercial reality. Some reports claim they can already run the experiments sustainably for several weeks at a time, generating hundreds times more energy than the input. That's pretty close to being commercially practical.

Is there a third route to produce nuclear energy?

The article is actually on PeakOil.com too.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:24 am    Post subject: Re: Only Salvation From Peak Oil is Solid State Nuclear Fusi Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

How are you going to run a car on fusion?

In what way can you run a car on fusion that you can't with windmills or fission?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:19 am    Post subject: Re: Only Salvation From Peak Oil is Solid State Nuclear Fusi Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Starvid:

Cold fusion devices can be made perfectly small enough to fit in a car. So a cold fusion drive car is not impossible.

But that's not the point. Massive adoption of cold fusion will provide enough energy to replace fossil fuels. With plenty of energy, you can do any thing, you can synthesize carbohydrate fuel for vehicles to use. Or you can electrolyze water to generate hydrogen to fuel hydrogen fuel cell cars. There are millions of possibilities as long as there are enough energy available.

Windmill will not provide any sufficient amount of energy. Nuclear fission is dirty, create radioactive waste that we still do not know how to dispose. Besides there is a limited resource of uranium on earth. Cold fusion on the other hand, uses the heavy water extracted from any water source, including the ocean. So it's virtually inexhaustible.

Watch this cold fusion video

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:12 am    Post subject: Re: Only Salvation From Peak Oil is Solid State Nuclear Fusi Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If you like fuel cell technology or even like cold fusion, then you should like palladium. If you like palladium, then you need to buy the stocks of the ONLY two palladium producers in North America, PAL and SWC, especialy PAL right now is at a very decent entry price.

PAL had been pushed down by rampant naked shorting. It had been listed on the naked short watch list since Dec. 19, 2007. On Dec. 31, 2007, however, it was no longer on the naked short watch list, amid strong rally of the platinum metal recently, see this palladium price chart.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:51 am    Post subject: Re: Only Salvation From Peak Oil is Solid State Nuclear Fusi Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

JJ....

If you hadn't actually addressed a person by name, you where very very close to being spam. Honestly, I'm still thinking you are. I'd like to see some posts that aren't just very slightly reworded copy and pasted phrases designed to get people to go to your sites.
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