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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:38 pm    Post subject: What are your predictions for 2008? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

It's New Year's Eve and the wife and kids are visiting her family, so I'm trapped here with a cold Stella Artois writing a computer program for work that will be useless in X months when the consumer economy pancakes. (No more Stella then!)

James Kunstler just posted his 2008 predictions over on his web site and it occurred to me that this would be an interesting exercise. I'm a little weary of the "Best/Worst" lists for 2007 so let's peer ahead a bit...

What are YOUR predictions for 2008? I'll toss a couple of mine out there for general consumption:

1) No presidential candidate will use the words peak oil during the run up to the main election.

2) Housing market finally throws in the towel once the post-Super Bowl, post-Spring, post-Summer, post-Back to School seasons have come and gone with nary a hit.

3) Peak oil still plays second media fiddle to Global warming. Despite continuing bad news for those of us watching for it, PO will still continue to be a "non-crisis". It will get some play when oil crosses $100/barrel (See #4), but otherwise will be mostly ignored.

4) Economic recession masks true rising price of oil as dollar continues it's slide. Tar sands and corn ethanol enthusiasts confidently inform us that their processes will be economically viable at "current cost of oil plus $15 USD". Also, slowing economy will slow rise in oil use, but not as much as previous recessions.

5) Wild Ass Guess (WAG): Someone takes a potshot at the Democratic Presidential nominee. Hope not, but it's getting weird out there.

6) Mainstream press still won't notice that an epoch is shifting. Thus, average person will still know more about Britney Spears' pregnant sister than why they should probably not buy one of those used Jet Skis you'll see everywhere this year.

7) Another WAG: Drought in metro Atlanta will continue, but disaster will be averted. Sadly, drought in Southwest and central US will be a bigger story this year. It might get missed though, unless there are more wildfires near a major TV market.

Happy New Year!

[Edited for spelling and to note that I'm not a professional prognosticator, but from what I've seen on MSNBC, that's like saying you have an IQ above room temperature.]
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: What are your predictions for 2008? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

1. There will be at least 4 more interest rate cuts by the FED. It will still be unsuccessful in stopping the subprime crap. By election day, the Fed overnight rate will be less than 2%.

2. One of the top 10 US banks will go out of business between now and July 1. One of the top 5 home builders in the US will also go out of business. One of the top 3 US auto companies will merge with an Asian company in 2008.

3. Unfortunately, there will be a major terror event in Europe, There will not be a major terror event in the US.

4. Hillary Clinton will not be elected President of the US.

5. Another 750 of our kids will die in Iraq. Another 10,000 Iraqis will die in Iraq.

6. A major game fixing/gambling scandal will hit one of the major Pro sports.

7. Israel will not bomb Iran.

8. A big tornado outbreak in April or early May will hit the central US, and kill a lot of people. Louisville KY watch out.

9. A screwup will ground the Space Shuttle fleet for at least 6 months. The Russians, Europeans and Chinese will do a better job using disposable rockets.

I will save #10 for later.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:49 pm    Post subject: Re: What are your predictions for 2008? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Re: What are your predictions for 2008? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

benzoil wrote:
What are YOUR predictions for 2008?


1. We stay on the bumpy plateau, but a global recession means oil prices do not remain at recent highs. My guess is around $80 or just under.

2. Kuwaiti net oil exports suffer an abrupt drop at year end.

3. Negative equity becomes one of the UK words of the year. Banking system in turmoil. Covert intervention takes place, Market Abuse Directive be damned, although this may be impossible to verify unless leaked. GBP takes the USD's place as the big loser.

4. Cost of living inflates against a backdrop of net deflation, although everyone will still be arguing about it as the year draws to a close.

5. Mexico becomes a more exciting place as remittances begin to dry up. Cantarell continues to do likewise.

6. Someone will press a red button. Their opposite number will press a white button. In an anticlimactic twist, it will turn out to have been an exercise, the rest of the movie will be boring and you will be left wanting your money back at the end.

7. We will increasingly be asked to make sacrifices because of the environment, but not because of energy. Do not believe their lies.

8. The peak oil community will continue to be portrayed as anti-capitalist and as a front for Big Oil and the hedge funds, with no apparent contradiction.

9. Clinton '08.

10. Brown calls a spring election and wins a living dead majority ahead of economic implosion. Commentators draw parallels to 1992.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:58 pm    Post subject: Re: What are your predictions for 2008? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I would guess at least 1 major event on the order of a Katrina or a 9/11, very likely a massive earthquake or volcanic eruption.

The Olympics will be a big deal one way or another too (oh yeah, and the start date btw is 8-8-08)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:00 pm    Post subject: Re: What are your predictions for 2008? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

This guy has some interesting predictions

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2008 Predictions
This year of 2008 will be volatile and shocking in many respects. During the next 12 months, watch for the following topics in the news:

-- Pakistan gets a new government controlled by the U.S.

-- Iran is attacked by either U.S., U.K., Israel or any combo thereof.

-- Alien information becomes "normal" on conventional media with possible staged alien invasion later in the year.

-- Large and/ or devastating quakes in California, Yellowstone, Hawaii, Pacific Northwest and throughout Pacific Rim.

-- Daring "terrorist" attacks in North America, Europe and Asia.

-- Soviet Union starts to reform in a new way.

-- Many mysterious events in the oceans.

http://www.expansions.com/News.cfm
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:14 pm    Post subject: Re: What are your predictions for 2008? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

mmasters wrote:
This guy has some interesting predictions

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2008 Predictions
This year of 2008 will be volatile and shocking in many respects. During the next 12 months, watch for the following topics in the news:

-- Pakistan gets a new government controlled by the U.S.

-- Iran is attacked by either U.S., U.K., Israel or any combo thereof.

-- Alien information becomes "normal" on conventional media with possible staged alien invasion later in the year.

-- Large and/ or devastating quakes in California, Yellowstone, Hawaii, Pacific Northwest and throughout Pacific Rim.

-- Daring "terrorist" attacks in North America, Europe and Asia.

-- Soviet Union starts to reform in a new way.

-- Many mysterious events in the oceans.

http://www.expansions.com/News.cfm


I have to confess he lost me at the Alien thing. I daresay the rest is as possible as anything else.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:46 pm    Post subject: Re: What are your predictions for 2008? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Man, Pup set a high bar.


I guess for the general populace there might be a wake up call from…

Nothing much.


They will shell out a few more bucks to get to work, spend a little more for boneless, skinless chicken breasts, and a few dollars more on video games and all the myriad things little girls in china and everywhere else assemble and sell us.

Perhaps some may even get in a pinch when they find our Real Estate ATM is running low and do something different.

But a few will realize they are in a pot about to boil and decide to jump.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: What are your predictions for 2008? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Pops wrote:
But a few will realize they are in a pot about to boil and decide to jump.

...into the fire?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:18 am    Post subject: Re: What are your predictions for 2008? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Lanthanide wrote:
...into the fire?


Jumping anywhere is better than boiling. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:18 am    Post subject: Re: What are your predictions for 2008? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Hillary wins by a landslide.

The media stops covering Dubya as soon as Hillary wins.

Hillary destroys Idaho.

Hillary destroys Fl*rida.

Hillary destroys the moon.

Hillary declares herself the ultimate power in the universe.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:22 am    Post subject: Re: What are your predictions for 2008? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

1. severe crisis in Pakistan, US government without plan
2. Taliban very active. terrorist attacs
3. recession in the US maybe elsewhere
4. oil under $100 due to recession
5. severe weather events
6. end of US as a democracy (yet halfway at least)

I have no good feeling for the next year, not due to PO, more the confrontation of the west with the radical Islam. PO will maybe play a minor roll as things might become quite chaotic.

I am just reading a very good book " Dark Ages America"
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:49 am    Post subject: Re: What are your predictions for 2008? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

2008 will just be like 2007 but everything is just going to be a little worse. Higher oil, financial meltdowns and so forth.

One interesting thing to see is Russia playing geopolitical chess. Putin continues to steer the country in such a position for total control of their natural recources. My guess is that Putin does not believe democracy and the free market really work in a world where natural recources become scarce. I'm afraid he could be right. Europe will find itself in a worsening position.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:09 pm    Post subject: Re: What are your predictions for 2008? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Kenya and Pakistan will turn out, for those mindful of it, to have been orchestrated by the US in order to begin throttling down oil consumption in the Third World. Third World problems will get worse.

The Russians won't give Putin what he wants in terms of his desired form of governance, but he will rule anyway.

The US will get its collective head around pulling out of Iraq, with some ironic help (watch out) from the Bush Administration.

There will be even less legitimate reason for the heightened terror stance by the governments in the West, but curiously they will succeed in implementing various levels of drastic policy. Some countries will push back on this.

It will be a stock picker's market. Most people will get creamed, especially little guys. Watch yields when looking for a bottom, low yielders have farther to go (even the ones with big names).

America will whore itself out to the highest bidder like never before.

WAG - Bush will go back to the bottle. The press won't admit it until he wets himself on live TV.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:26 pm    Post subject: Re: What are your predictions for 2008? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

evilgenius wrote:
WAG - Bush will go back to the bottle. The press won't admit it until he wets himself on live TV.


Now THAT would be some interesting television!
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