Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster
Ditto about the salt. I bought a few cases at Costco but then came across a "how-to" on salting meat and I'd be out of salt by the time I filled a single barrel. I've been looking online to buy bulk quantities but haven't found a place. Any leads?? Isn't there some replacement for salt in our diets?
As for the rest of it...I dropped $500 at the 99-cent store not too long ago and scored a ton of great stuff. Matches, clothespins, canned goods, plastic containers, notebooks, pencils...etc. I had five carts full of stuff and got the stink eye from the cashiers!
("Are you opening a store?" "Why no, I'm preparing for Armageddon!!" I answered with a big smile on my face!)
I can't drive past a 99-cent store or a Goodwill without breaking out in a cold sweat. It's all I can do to keep the car heading straight and not swerve into the parking lot!!
Is there a 12-step program for doom preppers/hoarders and if there isn't, should we start one here? _________________ ...the rest of you just beat your useless gums at the moon like jimson weed goats. - efarmer
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster
Shannymara wrote:
vision-master wrote:
Get some K-1 kerosene for those oil lamps. It's $5 gal at the pump now.
I've been experimenting with making vegetable oil lamps. It's very easy. I like it because I can grow my own sunflower and peanut oil pretty easily, and hopefully olive oil some years. Of course my home-made ones don't look as nice and fancy as the ones you pictured, but that's not important to me. I mean, aesthetics are important, but I like my simple lamps.
I haven't been stockpiling TP because I figure we can use the rag system if necessary, as discussed in other threads in the Planning forum. However, if it's true that people will barter other more valuable things for it, maybe it's not such a bad idea. Then again, space is at a premium at my place, so maybe not.
Look at Estate sales or even check Ebay. Those old Nickel center draft Rayo or B&H lamps are simple to use and put out about the same amount of light as the Aladdins. Pluse you can find them pretty darn cheap ($20). The light is just kind of yellow (like all wick lamps), not like Aladdin lamps that put out light as close as you get to the sun. Get an Aladdin, figure out how to use it and WoW - nothing like it. I guess that's why they are so collectable.
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster
basil_hayden wrote:
vision-master wrote:
basil_hayden wrote:
Spec -
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No guns to kill with? Ammo is good for MAYBE 1 second during a disaster. What a stoogie.
Spec already has plenty of guns, you has-been wannabe.
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster
PMS: Where do I buy a lifetime supply of salt for $20? _________________ ...the rest of you just beat your useless gums at the moon like jimson weed goats. - efarmer
Joined: Nov 28, 2004 Posts: 12450 Location: Neither Here Nor There
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster
Ang wrote:
PMS: Where do I buy a lifetime supply of salt for $20?
Salt is cheap. Costco, Sam's Club, Smart & Final. Of course, I'm not talking about a supply that will suffice for salting meat. For that you will need to fork out more. But still, salt is remarkably cheap considering how valuable it is. _________________ Turn those Machines back On! - Don Ameche in Trading Places
Joined: Oct 01, 2007 Posts: 479 Location: Rural farm
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster
smallpoxgirl wrote:
roccman wrote:
6. Coleman Fuel
(URGENT $2.69-$3.99/gal. Impossible to stockpile too much.)
Ummm...you were aware that "Coleman Fuel" is just gasoline right? It's "white" gas meaning it's been filtered better than pump gas, but most any "Coleman Fuel" appliance will run fine off gasoline.
White gas has been distilled, there are no phenols or resins and it won't go bad so coleman gas will store for 20 years. _________________ ___________________________
Everything is going to happen more or less simultaneously.
Your relatives,their broken down car, and their credit card debt are coming to live with you in 2008
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster
For a family, footwear. Good quality running shoes, rubber boots, and really warm snow boots if you live in a cold climate. Buy extras in bigger sizes if you have family members who are still growing. Hit the sales, and look for quality workmanship rather than the trendy names.
Also, pillows, especially if you have any neck problems and need good ones to get a decent night's sleep.
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster
If you plan to use salt to preserve food, you want canning salt, not salt with iodine and non-cake additives in it. As for pepper, we get peppercorns in one-pound sealed foil bags through the local food co-op (also other spices and herbs come that way), and it keeps well if unopened, and I would think unground pepper would keep better than ground, no matter how stored.. A good pepper grinder isn't expensive. We like the ones with ceramic burrs in the grinding mechanism--think the one we have is German made.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:50 am Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster
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Antibiotics would be a good barter item too. (recently watched the series Jericho) although a prescription is needed in the UK.
If you know what your doing you can probably buy antibiotics at a pet store with out a prescription.
Caveat emptor , Let the buyer beware, use at your own risk. _________________ We are the Borg. Resistance is futile. Your culture will adapt to service ours. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own.
Of which most cant be found on a good day, let alone when the fertilizer is on its way to the horizontal distribution device. _________________ "Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the
Abyss, the Abyss gazes also into you."
Ammo at a gunfight is like bubblegum in grade school: If you havent brought enough for everyone, you're in trouble
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:23 am Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster
I see ammo is on everyone's list, but here's my question, is ammo a good investment? I don't mean a barter item, I mean an investment as in buy today sell next year at a higher price. If the world goes into a recession or worse a depression, would people have any money to buy ammo? Would the price of ammo continue its path upwards in a depression or would it be depressed like all other assets?
Right now, as all gun enthusiast know, the ammo price is skyrocketing over the last few years bc of (1) lack of supply - the wars are using all the stuff; and (2) cost of materials are going up - both causes leading to higher prices. These two trends should continue. I don't see the wars stopping anytime soon, and I don't see the costs of materials dropping anytime soon (PO), so the pressures causing current high prices should remain for some time. Thoughts appreciated.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:38 am Post subject: Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster
FL,
Maybe, but I'm looking at locking in cost on today's prices and selling based on that known price at some date in the future. To do the same with reloading, one would have to buy the equivalent brass, primers etc today to lock those prices in, and still invest the time to load the ammo. I don't have the time, knowledge or equipment to do that, so my option is buy now under the assumption prices will continue to rise. I'm not sure this is a good assumption if there is a recession or a depression.
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