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mattduke Light Sweet Crude


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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:29 pm Post subject: Quietrevolution: Vertical Axis Wind Turbine |
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An elegant design. By twisting the blades into a helix it achieves uniform torque throughout the rotation.
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kokoda Heavy Crude


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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:50 am Post subject: Re: Quietrevolution: Vertical Axis Wind Turbine |
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| Interesting ... it works regardless of wind direction. I would be interested to see how well it would scale up. |
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WisJim Expert


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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:08 am Post subject: Re: Quietrevolution: Vertical Axis Wind Turbine |
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| Needs to be up another 20 meters or so, minimum, maybe higher depending on surroundings, to get into stronger winds with less turbulence. I haven't seen a vertical axis wind turbine yet that works well enough to use instead of a horizontal axis machine, though. |
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TreeFarmer Heavy Crude


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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Quietrevolution: Vertical Axis Wind Turbine |
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The 5 m/s that you see on their homepage corresponds to 15 mph? Someone plese check my quick math. If so, that's living in a pretty windy place.
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gnm Expert


Joined: Jul 08, 2004 Posts: 2638 Location: plundering eco-villages
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: Quietrevolution: Vertical Axis Wind Turbine |
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I've seen that one. It is a nice design but I think it also needs the generator to be run as a motor to "start" it spinning. IMO a major problem. It also still suffers the usual anemic outputs of VAWTs.
This is basically a helical darrieus turbine. Helical savonious designs have been around for a while and are even available commercially. But unfortunately a VAWT is still a VAWT.
One nice thing about VAWT's is that they are not noisy.
-G _________________ All right, you primitive screw-heads, listen up! |
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kokoda Heavy Crude


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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:11 pm Post subject: Re: Quietrevolution: Vertical Axis Wind Turbine |
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I guess one of the drawbacks is that for at least part of the time it will be spinning into the wind.
That means that it will suffer more drag compared to a horizontal design. |
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WisJim Expert


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mattduke Light Sweet Crude


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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject: Re: Quietrevolution: Vertical Axis Wind Turbine |
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| This is the only thread on peakoil.com that makes me happy. It's such a nice design. |
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Bas Moderator


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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:56 pm Post subject: Re: Quietrevolution: Vertical Axis Wind Turbine |
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| TreeFarmer wrote: | The 5 m/s that you see on their homepage corresponds to 15 mph? Someone plese check my quick math. If so, that's living in a pretty windy place.
TF |
5 m/s * 3.6 = 18 kph = ~11 mph _________________ "The best thing about the future is that it comes only one day at a time."
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JRP3 Heavy Crude


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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: Quietrevolution: Vertical Axis Wind Turbine |
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| mattduke wrote: | | This is the only thread on peakoil.com that makes me happy. It's such a nice design. |
Why? Yes it's pretty, but is literally a "non starter". Since the blades opposite the driving blades will always be moving against the wind it's always going to be inefficient. The only way I can see a vertical wind turbine ever being really efficient is if there is some way for the blades moving into the wind to be turned edge on to reduce resistance, which adds complexity and expense. _________________ The shovel with a wheel - The Wovel.
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Vermonter Coal


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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:16 am Post subject: Re: Quietrevolution: Vertical Axis Wind Turbine |
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It's not that hard to build an axial flux turbine with conventional 3 blades. Lots of write-ups on the 'net.
http://www.otherpower.com/otherpower_wind.html |
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WisJim Expert


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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:56 am Post subject: Re: Quietrevolution: Vertical Axis Wind Turbine |
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| The "otherpower" sit mentioned is a good place for realistic windpower info. I recommend them. |
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