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mkwin
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 Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:24 am Post subject: Re: Group Memberships |
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Even though I would consider myself a moderate, by your definition, this blocking of other posts is just stupid. I do not need to be shielded from others who have different opinions. In fact, I welcome the chance to receive and debate the ideas of all members of the forum. Depending on what the information is presenting at the time I might even change my viewpoint but filtering out alterative views really makes peakoil.com pointless.
This is a terrible idea that will severely damage peakoil.com’s leading position as a peakoil community. |
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Aaron
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:50 am Post subject: Re: Group Memberships |
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Apologies,
I forgot to make this experiment invisible to visitors.
My bad
It should be fixed now
Continue your bashing...
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virgincrude
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:56 am Post subject: Re: Group Memberships |
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I'm with Mkwin.
First you invent an Expert label, then you want to restrict newcomer's access to the Open Forum, now you want to reduce us all to categories.
CONTROL FREAKS! WTF was/is wrong with equal access for all? Why do we have to pigeon-hole ourselves?
NEOPO was dead right. Time to get out of here was way back when you made Airline Pilot a Mod.
What is the point? Are we soon going to have our access to each board restricted according to our membership with one of these categories? What about the many of us who slide easily from Peak Doomer in the morning, to Relative Cornucopian come afternoon and General Moderate by bed time, and then back around again? Isn't it enough that we've accepted the Peak Oil Dogma ... ? Now we have to abide by the rules of being a Cornucopian/Moderate/Doomer? |
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Pixie
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:11 am Post subject: Re: Group Memberships |
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| mkwin wrote: | | This system is a pointless waste of time. It will turn new users away who can't access posts and some might not even understand the terms of the group names. |
I suggest that the YOu-can't-get-in-here message should be editted to explain what one has to do to see that forum link. Also, the restricted forums should not be listed on the front page along with the others, because I too found them annoying, and only figured out how to access them, because THIS thread was still linked to the front page, which it is not anymore.
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Pixie
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:13 am Post subject: Re: Group Memberships |
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| mkwin wrote: | Even though I would consider myself a moderate, by your definition, this blocking of other posts is just stupid. I do not need to be shielded from others who have different opinions. In fact, I welcome the chance to receive and debate the ideas of all members of the forum. Depending on what the information is presenting at the time I might even change my viewpoint but filtering out alterative views really makes peakoil.com pointless.
This is a terrible idea that will severely damage peakoil.com’s leading position as a peakoil community. |
The XXXX's Only Forums are just a silly thing that should be thought of as a game, nothing more. Serious discussions should not take place in those forums.
What is the position of peakoil.com in the peakoil community anyway? I think it is what Tyler_JC calls it--the myspace of the appocalypse. You want a humorless academic discussion, that's what TheOilDrum is for.
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Aaron
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:19 am Post subject: Re: Group Memberships |
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Control Freaks?
lol... no.
If this experimental forum has no utility for you, then don't use it.
It's available to anyone just like any other forum on this board, including the Open Forum & the HOF, (both of which are unavailable to guests already).
This experiment is in response to requests from both sides of the PO equation having to tolerate the presence of the other in pet threads. And to be honest, the ignore button becomes a tedious affair after a while, (I'm told) 
In any event, don't let an experiment in speciality forums spoil your experience here because you think it's divisive etc...
I rather think it reflects the pre-existing divisions among us, and more clearly frames the debate at hand. After all, who here will argue that conventional peak isn't close at hand, or already past?
Almost nobody.
But the consequences of post-peak life... the divisions are sharp & compelling on both sides I think.
In any event... if you don't like the experiment, then by all means... don't use it, and let it die from attrition.
That's what experiments are for.
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eastbay
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:21 am Post subject: Re: Group Memberships |
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I can't see any of them now... did you pull them Aaron?
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Shannymara
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:24 am Post subject: Re: Group Memberships |
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| virgincrude wrote: | First you invent an Expert label, then you want to restrict newcomer's access to the Open Forum, now you want to reduce us all to categories.
CONTROL FREAKS! WTF was/is wrong with equal access for all? Why do we have to pigeon-hole ourselves?
NEOPO was dead right. Time to get out of here was way back when you made Airline Pilot a Mod.
What is the point? Are we soon going to have our access to each board restricted according to our membership with one of these categories? What about the many of us who slide easily from Peak Doomer in the morning, to Relative Cornucopian come afternoon and General Moderate by bed time, and then back around again? Isn't it enough that we've accepted the Peak Oil Dogma ... ? Now we have to abide by the rules of being a Cornucopian/Moderate/Doomer? |
1) The Open Discussion forum is viewable to people who aren't registered again. Aaron changed it back by popular demand a few weeks ago.
2) You don't have to subscribe to any of the "doom spectrum" groups if you don't want to. It's completely optional.
3) Not belonging to any of the "doom spectrum" groups doesn't restrict your access to any of the existing forums in any way, only the new "doom spectrum" forums, which you think are stupid anyway.
So you have had NOTHING taken away.
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Aaron
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:26 am Post subject: Re: Group Memberships |
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| eastbay wrote: | | I can't see any of them now... did you pull them Aaron? |
They are invisible to all guests & members who do not belong to the appropriate group.
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Shannymara
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:31 am Post subject: Re: Group Memberships |
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There was another glitch in the permissions settings which didn't allow the group members to see them either, eastbay. I think it should be fixed now...
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eastbay
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:32 am Post subject: Re: Group Memberships |
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I see them now.
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Aaron
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:37 am Post subject: Re: Group Memberships |
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One more thing.
There are no restrictions on membership.
Join all three if you like.
This is really just a way for people who want avoid certain topics in a wholesale fashion.
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SpringCreekFarm
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: Group Memberships |
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| Aaron wrote: | One more thing.
There are no restrictions on membership.
Join all three if you like.
This is really just a way for people who want avoid certain topics in a wholesale fashion. |
Thank you. That was the explanation I was looking for. |
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mkwin
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: Group Memberships |
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| SpringCreekFarm wrote: | | Aaron wrote: | One more thing.
There are no restrictions on membership.
Join all three if you like.
This is really just a way for people who want avoid certain topics in a wholesale fashion. |
Thank you. That was the explanation I was looking for. |
Same, this could have been explained a little better. |
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Aaron
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Group Memberships |
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My bad
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