Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois was projected to have defeated Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York in Wisconsin’s Democratic presidential primary Tuesday, according to NBC News, showing strong support across a range of constituencies, some of which had previously leaned toward Clinton.
Sen. John McCain of Arizona was projected to have won the Republican primary by a substantial margin, NBC News said, a result that moved him closer to wrapping up the party’s nomination for president...
...Tim Russert, NBC News’ Washington bureau chief, said exit polls indicated that Obama was able to continue making inroads into Clinton’s support among white voters and men, adding to his base among African-American and younger voters.
Obama even tied Clinton among white women, Clinton’s core group. Only white women older then 50 appeared to be sticking substantially with Clinton, Russert said.
Obama also showed his appeal to independent voters, who had a choice of parties in Wisconsin’s open primary. He won the votes of 6 in 10 self-described independents, while he tied Clinton among self-described Democrats.
_________________ "Thank you for attending the oil age. We're going to scrape what we can out of these tar pits in Alberta and then shut down the machines and turn out the lights. Goodnight." - seldom_seen
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: Super Tuesday - And Beyond
Ralph Nader announced today as expected. He has a superb
record of consumer advocacy and accomplishment and is on his
third generation of inspired youths to take on the establishment
on such issues. He also gets to take a smidgen of votes and in a
tight race, he gets extreme leverage and becomes a factor. I
hope he is asked about how much his OSHA and EPA
accomplishments were negated or offset by his leverage greatly
helping install GWB twice?
Mark Penn and the other Clinton strategists, as well as Karl Rove
and some of the Republican strategists, and of course the
leveraged power of Ralph Nader are all based on manipulations
and attributes of a deadlocked political race where little
niche factors become crowbars that can move the huge divided
masses back and forth across the finish line. Having become
used to this game, all of the smart money, the insiders, the media
pundits, the major media owners who like to be part of the news
in addition to reporting it, are simply licking their chops for the
old system to run one more time and put them back in the game,
and of course deliver their own favorite causes a little of that
American public money or sweetheart legislation or tax relief.
Absolutely none of this works in a landslide election. In the case
of one of those, where the American people have chosen a
favorite and put hundreds of thousand of small and recurrent
donations into the kitty and can do so on an open ended basis;
the niche manipulators who are ready with their squirt guns to do battle find out it's tsunami day at the beach.
This morning a photograph of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., dressed as a Somali Elder during a 2006 trip to Africa was posted on the Drudge Report.
Drudge claimed "stressed Clinton staffers" were circulating the photograph over the weekend, one of them writing, "Wouldn't we be seeing this on the cover of every magazine if it were HRC?"
The Clinton campaign has yet to issue an official denial that its staffers had sent the email or circulated the photograph and the Obama campaign -- believing the Clinton team is trying to feed into the internet rumor that Obama is some sort of Muslim Manchurian candidate -- expressed outrage.
_________________ "Thank you for attending the oil age. We're going to scrape what we can out of these tar pits in Alberta and then shut down the machines and turn out the lights. Goodnight." - seldom_seen
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:34 pm Post subject: Re: Super Tuesday - And Beyond
Wasn't that the time Vlad and GW tried out for the part
of "Channukah Harry" on Saturday Night Live? I wish I
would have been the clever guy who convinced this pair
that a yarmulkah has to be held on the head with thumb
tacks. Many broken dredels later, they gave up and went
back to their day jobs.
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: Super Tuesday - And Beyond
This has me laughing up inside. A lot of people are trying to make Obama look bad, often aligning him with agendas that contradict the views of other Obama critics! People hate him for different things that don't make sense together.
For example, this "Muslim Manchurian candidate" story goes against the stories that some hardline Palestinian Muslims are using to say that Obama is a Zionist.
I hear that more people are dropping their former support with Hillary after the way her campaign is going on with their defensive tactics.
Joined: Sep 25, 2004 Posts: 4419 Location: Boston, MA
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:52 am Post subject: Re: Super Tuesday - And Beyond
Here's the latest map:
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I put that big black bar in Texas because while Hillary may have squeaked past in the popular vote, Obama will surely win the caucus.
Even ignoring the caucus, Hillary must win 62% of ALL remaining delegates in order to merely pull ahead of Obama in the pledged delegates count.
And how likely is it that she will win Mississippi, North Carolina or Indiana? Let alone the fact that she needs to win by more than 20 points in each state!
Hillary may have broken Obama's momentum, but she can't beat math.
Obama is going to walk into the convention with a massive lead in delegates.
I've been playing around with Slate's Delegate Calculator and I get the same results over and over again. No matter how you spin it, she will simply not be able to overcome Obama's lead.
Using polling data, demographics, random guessing, etc...
I think Obama enters the convention with a 150 delegate lead. _________________ "www.peakoil.com is the Myspace of the Apocalypse."
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:43 am Post subject: Re: Super Tuesday - And Beyond
If you can destroy your party's other candidate and
make him unelectable the math doesn't matter, does it?
The fall may become easy, do you want the decent old
hero, or the lady with the blood on her hands?
Joined: Apr 28, 2005 Posts: 3441 Location: West shore Lake Eire, MI, USA
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: Super Tuesday - And Beyond
emersonbiggins wrote:
TylerJC - Why did you use coal black to designate Obama's victories?
And whats with the baby blue for the girl? Some sort of secret sexist message I bet _________________ Oxygen: - An intensely habit-forming accumulative toxic substance. As little
as one breath is known to produce a life-long addiction to the gas, which addiction invariably ends in death.--Isaac Asimov
The order of battle across the country is now clear. It's Black and Green versus Brown and Gray. Obama has an overwhelming advantage among African-Americans and wealthier and better-educated voters who care about issues like the environment and political reform. Clinton is well ahead with Latinos and with Democrats over 60, many of whom are on fixed incomes and vote reliably. Gender is more evenly balanced, with Obama leading narrowly among men and Hillary narrowly among women.
Based on demographic breakdowns, the primary schedule ahead favors Obama in February and Hillary in March, though anomalies and upsets are entirely possible. This Saturday, Feb. 9, there are caucuses in Louisiana (heavily African-American), Nebraska (where Sen. Ben Nelson supports Obama and the Clintons have always been weak) and Washington state (Yuppie green), all of which favor Obama. Clinton might catch a break in the Feb. 10 caucuses in Maine, where she is well organized. The Feb. 12 "Chesapeake Primaries" in Virginia, Maryland and the District of Columbia are expected to go for Obama, in part because they have large African-American populations (and the endorsement of well-regarded Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine helps). Obama is also in good shape on Feb. 19 in Hawaii (where he was born) and Wisconsin (Black and Green). Hillary's aim is to survive February in order to get to March 4, where Ohio (a blue-collar state in which she enjoys the backing of popular Gov. Ted Strickland) and Texas (heavily Hispanic) look much better for her. Vermont and Rhode Island, which also vote that day, are more up for grabs.
_________________ "www.peakoil.com is the Myspace of the Apocalypse."
Hillary's only hope is that the superdelegates override the will of the people. _________________ "It is no measure of health to be deemed sane in an insane society" J. Krishnamurti
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