Super Tuesday - And Beyond

namenick · Heavy Crude Joined: Jan 04, 2008 Posts: 270

The question wasn't whether he had the support of blacks or not. He clearly does have their support and he's not seen as a 'huxtable'. The question I was raising is whether or not enough whites can bring themselves to vote for a black man. There's no use pretending it's not an issue with some whites but if he gets the black solidly then that may overcome the racist faction.

I've exchanged ideas with some people in the southern states on other forums and the underlying racism is discernible if one listens carefully. They are careful to not come right out with the KKK kind of sentiments but it's there nonetheless. I've found that sometimes they can be baited into bringing it out in the open if one pretends to sympathize with their views. To watch the tv news and see black Americans still floating around in the streets 2 weeks after Katrina told us a lot about those people. And to hear them blame the poor people who died in Katrina because they refused to leave really does spill the beans on them. Not to mention the fact that they are not in favour of rebuilding for the homeless because they're glad that the slums were wiped out.

It's an ugly situation in that country with their society of looking after themselves and not worrying about others and that mainly spills over to the majority of poor who are black. I worry that will stop Obama even though the conservative right has nothing to offer in the least and the people should have learned the lesson by now. Nothing less than the future of us all is at stake if the US doesn't soon come onside with the reality of the big picture.

Tyler_JC · Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: Super Tuesday - And Beyond

I predicted Obama would win in Nebraska, Louisiana, and Washington by at least 20 points each.

I was far too conservative.

As I sit here, Obama is winning Washington by 35 points. That's a 2 to 1 lead (67% to 32%)

Nebraska is even more dramatic. Obama is winning by 36 points in the CornHuskers State. (68% to 32%.)

Would anyone say that racism is hurting Obama in 90% white Nebraska or 3/4 white Washington?
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namenick · Heavy Crude Joined: Jan 04, 2008 Posts: 270

Tyler asked:

Zardoz · Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:07 am Post subject: Re: Super Tuesday - And Beyond

Zardoz · Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:09 am Post subject: Re: Super Tuesday - And Beyond

This is pretty amazing. Interest in the primaries is really high in the UK:

How The Mother Country Sees Election '08 - The U.K. Is Almost As Excited About The Presidential Race As The U.S. Is, For Different Reasons

threadbear · Expert Joined: Jan 22, 2005 Posts: 7476

It all seems like a pointless exercise. McCain will likely be ushered in through the rigging of votes in swing states, particularly if Obama wins over the she-beast.

namenick · Heavy Crude Joined: Jan 04, 2008 Posts: 270

It's becoming pretty apparent too that a lot of american men don't like to take a back seat to a woman either.

threadbear · Expert Joined: Jan 22, 2005 Posts: 7476

mos6507 · Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: Super Tuesday - And Beyond

namenick · Heavy Crude Joined: Jan 04, 2008 Posts: 270

Hillary is a warmonger? Aren't they all? Is anyone lame enough to actually think that any president is going to end the oil wars? Obviously not and the only one who even suggested it was possible was branded as a complete kook and completely sidelined.

I think it's time to take a step back to economics 101 for the Americans on this board. Please pay close attention and then we won't have to keep going over this time and time again:

The US oil wars are necessary for your very survival if you want to keep the level of your lifestyles anywhere near the present. Therefore the war in Iraq will be won. The US will not leave Iraq until it is won.

Therefore there is no choice between any of the hopefuls as regards the Iraq war. Period.

Some may have a point with the Zionist loving schtick but it's very doubtful that any president other than HIllary would take a different stance. Come on folks, be serious for a change.

For me a female influence could possibly have some postives but I wouldn't walk accross the street to support any of them. In fact I am of the opinion that the status quo with McCain would be the best choice because it wouldn't prolong the agony. The US is going to get another big licking some day which will make 911 look like a walk in the park and it might as well be sooner than later. Too bad it has to happen but the US ensures it will by continueing it's foreign policy even after the 911 warning. The UK too most likely which is really madness because it's not going to take much to finish that little island off. Not a good place to live if your government is going to be uppity and support US aggression.