Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: Re: lonely peak
How i learned to stop worrying and love the collapse. I feel somewhat surreal when i go outside, see all the cars and the shops. Talking to people and thinking about society is just disturbing. Also i can't prepare much materially for 2 years yet and rather than despair and worry I'm enjoying life while i can, enjoying time with friends even though i consider them clinically insane. I've got rid of my TV and when I'm not enjoying time with friends i read excessively, taking this window to educate myself in all manor of things i think would be useful.
Try not to let reality get you down, the last generation had nuclear war over their heads all the time, just live while you can.
On a side note i read in a book today(Can't remember the author, only browsed through) on petrology from the 70s and at the end it had a section on the future. It predicted production will decline around 2010 and you petrologist in training will have to be the ones to keep the lights on for our grandchildren, so get to it! I just laughed at it.
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: lonely peak
Based on the fact that 99% of today's information comes from AP, wouldn't be surprising that anyone who wasn't right down the middle of what they were supposed to think at any moment would be alienated. _________________ People first, then things, then dollars.
There will be enslavement, cannibalism, & zombie invasions.
Joined: Dec 07, 2005 Posts: 1881 Location: Australia
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: lonely peak
Not really an answer to anything but an example of doing what you enjoy.
Last week I was flicking the chanels and stopped at a show about private people who had bought fighter planes and bombers to use for their own fun. (My first thought was of course, yeah what a dead end hobby that is)
One of the guys was a flight intructor and liked to do dog fights with his partner who was ex-military pilot.
He described it something like; when you are up there dog-fighting you concentrate it at a 100%. You can't have thought about problems, like the world is running out of fuel.
It sure woke me up, having someone on TV mentioning PO, especially a show like that. But the point is, here is an example of a guy who intends to enjoy what he is doing as long as he can even if he knows there is an end to it. (Too bad his jet fuel burning also hastens it up)
As I said it before, just make sure you prepare for bad scenarios while you go on enjoying life. _________________ It's not a bailout, it's a buy-in" - Nancy Pelosi
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:14 am Post subject: Re: lonely peak
Micki wrote:
Not really an answer to anything but an example of doing what you enjoy.
Last week I was flicking the chanels and stopped at a show about private people who had bought fighter planes and bombers to use for their own fun. (My first thought was of course, yeah what a dead end hobby that is)
One of the guys was a flight intructor and liked to do dog fights with his partner who was ex-military pilot.
He described it something like; when you are up there dog-fighting you concentrate it at a 100%. You can't have thought about problems, like the world is running out of fuel.
It sure woke me up, having someone on TV mentioning PO, especially a show like that. But the point is, here is an example of a guy who intends to enjoy what he is doing as long as he can even if he knows there is an end to it. (Too bad his jet fuel burning also hastens it up)
As I said it before, just make sure you prepare for bad scenarios while you go on enjoying life.
Well said Micki and it fits with my view of the world. Basically enjoy these incredibly great times (for us wealthy westerners) while they last.
Cheers. _________________ "Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box."
-Italian Proverb
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: lonely peak
camefromthecorn wrote:
I find it hard to particpate in regular activities because the fun comes from any unsustainable ilogical way of of life. I can't get away from thinking along those lines not that I really wanted to because this perception of only looking in practical usage is so important.
This way of thinking has slowly over the last few years alienated me from most of the people I want to high school with and Im getting the feeling that my social life will not resume until a post peak oil practical world reveals itself.
Has anyone else hit peak lonely?
peak lonelyness and peak alienation ist the appropriate word for roughly a decade in my life. It led me from depression to crying despair to extasy (the emotion, i mean). My 5 ct for counsel:
Though it may bring you down occasionally, don't let it destroy you. Be resilient, not like a hero but rather like Frodo the Hobbit.
Read big literature, all great writers had their demons to fight with. It made them have something to say.
Don't pretend to be or to do. Find out, what you really believe in and make this the source of your motivation.
Talk to other people about the things you find difficult, but do not overburden them with your stuff. If you need advice or help, ask people.
If you know pain and loneliness and went through hell, you have learned maybe a lot about life, and that can make you a compassionate and valuable human. Just think about the dorks who have it always easy and get the good jobs young. What do they know about life?
Good luck! _________________ The mouse, i`ve been sure for years, limps home from the site of the burning ferris wheel with a brand new, airtight plan for killing the cat.
Joined: Dec 30, 2007 Posts: 18 Location: Im not f#%king interested
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: lonely peak
pup55 wrote:
Quote:
camefromthecorn
Welcome to PO.com
We had a similar conversation with someone awhile back. If your screen name is in any way descriptive of where in the country you are from (such as Iowa) your problem is that you have been through one of the nastiest, coldest and longest winters in a long time.
You should go to a tanning place, and get some rays. This will help you shake off the Seasonal Affected Disorder that you are currently experiencing. Alternate plan: get into your car, get on I-35 sounth, and do not stop until you get to Padre. If too cheap for either of these two, plan C is to get a bottle of Vitamin D supplements, and start taking them.
Secondly, as soon as it warms up to something approaching a tolerable level, which it will eventually, get out your bike and get ready for RAGBRAI. The more of a couch potato you are right now, the more this type of strenuous exercise will benefit you. Alternate plan: Look in the paper for an indoor exercise bike which you can ride in the meantime. If you do not have a bike, buy one at a garage sale and learn how to work on it.
There is now an abundance of biker clubs, all across the midwest. If there is one near you, join them for a Saturday ride. There may be several in your area: find one that is low-key. These people tend to be well educated, and accepting. This will also help you do some social networking, an important PO skill, but also give you the gift of fossil-fuel-free transportation. Note: They may offer you some beverages. Do not worry if you are "slow". A lot of these people ride just barely fast enough to keep from falling over.
Actually I'm in central Queensland, Australia. I was considering Children of the corn by Stephan king when I thought of the name. Theres actually a large amounts of sugar cane grown around here
so maybe it should have been camefromthecane. Thanks for the comments everyone I will take them into consideration.
Very true BigTex about the news reporters change in mood from one topic to the next, it always gives me a laugh too. _________________ Come and see and I saw, behold a pale horse.
Joined: Dec 07, 2005 Posts: 1881 Location: Australia
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: Re: lonely peak
Let's try to squeeze in a final comment.
Remember that the best things in life are free. (or cheap at least)
Moonshine (drink and lunar) and grilling some snags on the beach with mates, copulating, catching a fish and watching the roos hop by. This can go on way after oil is gone and if you can enjoy the simple pleassures, you'll get a lot more joy. _________________ It's not a bailout, it's a buy-in" - Nancy Pelosi
Joined: Aug 03, 2006 Posts: 4319 Location: Graceland
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:57 pm Post subject: Re: lonely peak
camefromthecorn wrote:
Actually I'm in central Queensland, Australia. I was considering Children of the corn by Stephen King when I thought of the name. Theres actually a large amounts of sugar cane grown around here
so maybe it should have been camefromthecane. Thanks for the comments everyone I will take them into consideration.
Very true BigTex about the news reporters change in mood from one topic to the next, it always gives me a laugh too.
If you're a Stephen King fan make sure to check out Different Seasons and the Bachman Books. Several movies in those collections.
If you live in Australia, you're already several steps ahead of us in the U.S. If you think it sucks there you would hate it here.
Joined: May 07, 2007 Posts: 434 Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:38 am Post subject: Re: lonely peak
Micki wrote:
Let's try to squeeze in a final comment.
Remember that the best things in life are free. (or cheap at least)
Moonshine (drink and lunar) and grilling some snags on the beach with mates, copulating, catching a fish and watching the roos hop by. This can go on way after oil is gone and if you can enjoy the simple pleassures, you'll get a lot more joy.
You're not wrong mate!
^^^^^Take note "camefromthecorn" (not from Bundaberg or that general area are you?) _________________ "That the cream cannot help but always rise up to the top, well I say, <censored by peakoil.com> floats"
Joined: Dec 30, 2007 Posts: 18 Location: Im not f#%king interested
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:56 pm Post subject: Re: lonely peak
Judgie wrote:
Micki wrote:
Let's try to squeeze in a final comment.
Remember that the best things in life are free. (or cheap at least)
Moonshine (drink and lunar) and grilling some snags on the beach with mates, copulating, catching a fish and watching the roos hop by. This can go on way after oil is gone and if you can enjoy the simple pleassures, you'll get a lot more joy.
You're not wrong mate!
^^^^^Take note "camefromthecorn" (not from Bundaberg or that general area are you?)
Do you know me Judgie? _________________ Come and see and I saw, behold a pale horse.
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