Canada's ferocious NAFTA growl

Ache · Heavy Crude Joined: Apr 23, 2005 Posts: 241

RdSnt

Canada is likely going to re-open NAFTA anyways.
Currently our nafta obligations are in direct conflict with our need to cut greenhouse gases (and comply with Kyoto).
Have you noticed that the major oil companies in the tar sands have suggested that there be no new development there for awhile?
If that were to occur there is a good chance it would conflict with nafta.

As peak oil progresses the whole concept of global trade is going out the window, which includes shipping widgets from Mexico to Canada to fit into bigger widgets that we then ship back to Mexico.

To survive the US would be smart to tear up all its international trading agreements and start rebuilding their local manufacturing base. We'll ship you the raw materials but you should be processing them locally.
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PopeGideon · Heavy Crude Joined: Jan 25, 2008 Posts: 158

Don't mess with Canada?

Why not? Have they got tanks for the Mounties now?

Canada is America's great natural resource supply to the North. The fact that Canadians happen to live there is immaterial.

Don't mess with Canada?

It's like Calvin saying to Moe - "I've got a lunch and you don't Moe, so you better not mess with me or I won't let you have any of my lunch."

Nafta was horrible for Canada. If there was any doubt that Canada was just another American whore, that residual doubt was removed with the signing of NAFTA, which hugely benefited the United States because it forces Canada to sell Natural Gas and Oil to the U.S.. What it does is give the legal pretext for the invasion when some idiot Canadian premier, or whatever they call the president up there, gets voted in under the premise of "not giving away our natural resources to the U.S.." Whatever goon Prez in the U.S. is in power then holds up Nafta and says, "if you breach your NAFTA obligation, that's a terrorist attack on the U.S.".

Sucks to be Canadian. Not only are you the owners of your own natural resources only in a nominal sense, you also have to deal with the cold and snow.

timbo

And Joe Sixpack will be there cheering the Prez on. Fargin' Canucks how dare they stop him from drivin' his SUV.

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dissident · Heavy Crude Joined: Apr 08, 2006 Posts: 389

This is blackmail I tell you. Canada is an unreliable energy supplier throwing its politically motivated weight around trying to intimidate the cute and cuddly US.

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Haven't you seen Canadian Bacon. Canada has the Hacker Hailstorm! Rue the day the US tries to take on Canada.
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Kristen · Heavy Crude Joined: Jul 17, 2006 Posts: 241

Well Canada has to be getting something out of it. Perhaps the answer is water. The great lakes account for 20 percent of the world's fresh water supply. The border between the two nations gives the U.s. about 60-70 percent ownership. Water is essential for life.

Chesire · Heavy Crude Joined: Jul 13, 2007 Posts: 267

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FairMaiden

I have yet to hear about water being an issue here so far.

NAFTA doesn't mean anything at all. Most of our major resource industries have been bought up by US companies. We have even gone as far (if I believed in conspiracies theories - I'd see this as the only rational reason for this)...as to sell off public companies that have reached the point of profitablilty. Most of the major infrastructure was paid for by taxpayers...then when they can actually give some back, they sell to a US company so they can stick us with higher bills instead. Contrary to what anyone says "capitalism" does not exist...anymore than real socialism every did. Like socialism gave power to a small few administrators (instead of the people) - capitalism gives power to a small few corporations. If they make profit, they become rich off our backs. If they don't make profit, they get bailed out by the gov't and get rich off our backs.

timbo

shortonoil · Fission Joined: Dec 02, 2004 Posts: 2540 Location: VA USA

FairMaiden said: