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roccman Peak Oil Prophet

Joined: Apr 27, 2007 Posts: 4353 Location: The Great Sonoran Desert
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Clouseau2 Heavy Crude


Joined: Oct 18, 2004 Posts: 266 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:57 am Post subject: Re: What's the scariest investing story of 2008 so far? |
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| Double or nothing! Waitress, another whiskey, please! |
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efarmer Heavy Crude


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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:59 am Post subject: Re: What's the scariest investing story of 2008 so far? |
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True genius here. If we can also get the Social Security money
tossed in to sweeten the deal we are poised for the next big
bubble ride. First we have to allow people to borrow against
their future Social Security benefits or trade them for stock on
Wall Street. Then we can enjoy:
The SUBPRIME RETIREMENT Bubble!
This is where the folks that walked away from their upside down
mortgage get to crawl away from their upside down retirement.
Now if we can just move the District of Columbia to the Cayman Islands, we're right back in the game!
Remember, if someone tells you the party is over and you still see
any middle class people left. They're lying to you.
Investment tip: Companies that ferry old people to Havana for
medical care. |
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heroineworshipper Intermediate Crude


Joined: Jul 14, 2006 Posts: 633 Location: Calif*
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: What's the scariest investing story of 2008 so far? |
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13.4% import price inflation. U ever buy anything that wasn't imported? Savings & loans will get bailed out just like the 80's, but workers R going to be paying $20 for gas and $4000 for rent. _________________ People first, then things, then dollars.
There will be enslavement, cannibalism, & zombie invasions. |
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joeltrout Light Sweet Crude

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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: What's the scariest investing story of 2008 so far? |
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Buying my house in Feb 2007.
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erb Heavy Crude


Joined: Jan 13, 2006 Posts: 138 Location: toronto, not anymore
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:49 pm Post subject: Re: What's the scariest investing story of 2008 so far? |
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| joeltrout wrote: | Buying my house in Feb 2007.
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HI 5 bought my house last year buddy
O/ \O _________________ LOOKING FOR -a view of the enditems- |
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mkwin Intermediate Crude


Joined: Jun 01, 2007 Posts: 596
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: What's the scariest investing story of 2008 so far? |
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| I read in the paper this evening that 25% of people in the UK are considering a property investment as a way of securing their retirement. If only they knew. |
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joeltrout Light Sweet Crude

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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: What's the scariest investing story of 2008 so far? |
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| mkwin wrote: | | I read in the paper this evening that 25% of people in the UK are considering a property investment as a way of securing their retirement. If only they knew. |
Maybe if they bought in the US and the dollar shoots up and home values go up again.
Oh wait...........that probably won't happen.
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steam_cannon Expert


Joined: Dec 28, 2006 Posts: 2467 Location: MA
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: What's the scariest investing story of 2008 so far? |
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| Clouseau2 wrote: | | Double or nothing! Waitress, another whiskey, please! | Yeah roll dem bones!!!
| Quote: | RI - Sitting in her own urine, the elderly woman continued to
play the game. Observers concluded she had some sort of bladder
disorder, but the real problem was actually staring the woman in
the face: the slot machine. Her gambling addiction had reached the
point where she ignored everything --even her own bodily functions
-- simply so she could keep on playing. Seniors with a gambling
problem are known to stop taking medications, steal money,
gamble with credit card money, gamble with money earmarked for
utility bills, or even skip meals, Lisa Rafferty, residential program
specialist, said. When seniors rely too heavily on gambling for
entertainment, it can lead to addiction, she said. "Then they do it
(gambling) all the time, without any regard to their own basic needs."
http://www.casinowatch.org/elderly/elderly_excerpts.html
Aggressive casino marketing targets the elderly
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_520700.html
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Hey Casino's want elderly to gamble with their money, why not just
make their retirement account a gambling account! It's brilliant!  |
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Iaato Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Mar 12, 2007 Posts: 1004 Location: As close as I can get to the beginning of the pipe.
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: Re: What's the scariest investing story of 2008 so far? |
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Rocc, I think your PBGC double-down story wins for 2008. Since we're on the topic of reverse retirements, I'd like to nominate one for 2009--the rise of the reverse mortgage.
| Quote: | "During the 1990s, the demand for reverse
mortgages was extremely small — with less than
one percent of eligible homeowners opting for one.4
In recent years, though, the market has begun to
expand with the number of reverse mortgages rising
from 6,640 in 2000 to 43,131 in 2005 (see Figure 1).
Given that many baby boomers will reach retirement
with insufficient wealth from other sources, reverse
mortgages are likely to become more popular. One
indication of anticipated growth is the emergence of
a secondary market for reverse mortgages that will
allow lenders to package and resell the loans to
investors." |
Will Reverse Mtgs. Rescue the Baby Boomers?
Let's package and sell our elders' retirement homes. Just like we did with mortgage loans. We'll all be rich! _________________ "When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." --Sinclair Lewis |
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heroineworshipper Intermediate Crude


Joined: Jul 14, 2006 Posts: 633 Location: Calif*
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: What's the scariest investing story of 2008 so far? |
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Foreign countries won't have the kind of housing deflation that Detroit & Bakersfield R having. Our problem is massive housing inflation & not enough money available to keep up with prices.
Foreign countries have not had nearly the same inflation so their money supply is enough to sustain prices. _________________ People first, then things, then dollars.
There will be enslavement, cannibalism, & zombie invasions. |
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billp Heavy Crude


Joined: Dec 11, 2005 Posts: 430 Location: albuquerque
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:58 pm Post subject: Re: What's the scariest investing story of 2008 so far? |
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New Mexico Thornburg may be a great buy. If you are able to tolerate risk.
ONE New Mexico investment counselor advised in the summer of 2007 that TMA was a good company and a great buy at about $9.00.
SECOND investment counselor phoned to discuss Thornburg options on Thursday March 6, 2008.
We read on internet that an investor bought 20,000 shares at about $3-5.
| Quote: | | TMA 1.65 -1.75 -51.47% Thursday March 6, 2008 |
We don't trust financial advisors.
We are, instead, investing in the legal system.
More or less risky?
We don't know.
But we may soon find out. |
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jato Moderator


Joined: Aug 14, 2004 Posts: 2066 Location: San Diego, Ca.
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:46 am Post subject: Re: What's the scariest investing story of 2008 so far? |
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A good way to blow your investments into our hurting economy:
401k Debit Card
| Quote: | | So, what exactly is this program? Well, it is just what it sounds like–a debit card that is linked to your 401k which allows you to essentially open a line of credit against the amount available to borrow via loan provisions of the plan. That’s right, now people can go shopping for that big screen HDTV and instead of using a credit card or money they have in the bank, they can just swipe their 401k debit card and use those funds. |
_________________ "Peak oil isn't more than an interesting industry factoid and doesn't have anything to do with the hysterics speculated on ad nauseum around here!" ReserveGrowthRulz |
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Starvid Fission


Joined: Feb 20, 2005 Posts: 2799 Location: Uppsala, Sweden
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: What's the scariest investing story of 2008 so far? |
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It's quite terrifying that a pension company has such a small part of its holding in stocks in the first place!
PS. The very fact that the company mentioned even have yo exist is such a damning indiction of the utter retardation of the US system of "benefits" that I don't even know where to begin. _________________ Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
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Starvid Fission


Joined: Feb 20, 2005 Posts: 2799 Location: Uppsala, Sweden
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: What's the scariest investing story of 2008 so far? |
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| heroineworshipper wrote: | Foreign countries won't have the kind of housing deflation that Detroit & Bakersfield R having. Our problem is massive housing inflation & not enough money available to keep up with prices.
Foreign countries have not had nearly the same inflation so their money supply is enough to sustain prices. | The UK will. _________________ Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis. |
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