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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:39 am    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Hagakure,
I know the feeling. I built a corn crib, and cut a couple cords of firewood once when I had pneumonia, eating antibiotics, but I wouldn't do it again. It has long term effects.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Patience, I just want to complement you on what all you are doing-I am learning so much from you about your approach between the wheat bread and soap making (I've been reading your posts on other threads too). I agree with you VERY MUCH with your approach to have developed skills that will help not just you but your children to survive 10-50 years from now. Its unreasonable to think one can "stockpile" for 50 years. Too bad you are not closer to my location-I am more of a visual learner and it would be so neat to watch you make wheat bread, soap, etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Hagakure,
I know the feeling. I built a corn crib, and cut a couple cords of firewood once when I had pneumonia, eating antibiotics, but I wouldn't do it again. It has long term effects.


You know it's funny you mention pneumonia patience. My partner keeps asking what kind of cough I have and rattlin' off about the dangers of pneumonia. Today, I'm gonna stay bed ridden!

There is no point getting things done today if that is at the expense of tomorrow.

Mystiek - agreed. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

mystiek,

You might want to try a batch of pancakes using whole wheat flour. Buy some by Hogdon"s Mill (sp?) at the grocery if necessary. This will give you an idea how you might like the bread.

Just look up a scratch pancake recipe and substitute the flour, maybe use slightly less liquids, to get a suitable consistency, and throw in some pecan pieces. Get some real butter and maple syrup (we make imitation: 1 cup white sugar, 1 cup brown sugar, 1 cup water, and a 1/2 teaspoon of artificial maple flavoring. Nuke it till it boils, or bring to a boil in a saucepan. Serve hot. It keeps for weeks in the fridge.) We made some today for breakfast. GOOD stuff. I'm not a cook, but I can operate a saucepan, a skillet, and a coffee pot. My wife and girls are the breadmakers, but I can get info when you want it.

I harvested about a cup of kale seeds today, from plants that wintered over and went to seed. We're putting more emphasis on saving seeds this year. Some of our daughter's favorite Brandywine tomatoes self-seeded and came back true to the original, so they'll be saving those seeds, too.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

"Found" (was told about) a place not two miles from the house that has pick-your own blueberries. Not exactly survival fare I know Rolling Eyes but nice to have local sources of any kind of food these days.

Took advantage of a nice sunny day, to take a vacation day and went and picked 12 pounds of very nice, very large berries. They operate on the honor system there; no one monitoring, a scale, a spiral notebook to write down how many pounds you bought, and a Tupperware box to put your cash in. Was an enjoyable time picking, and was happy to plunk my $31.20 in, even if frozen berries are cheaper by the pound at the Giganto-Mart. Smile

Froze most of the berries, am going to make low-sugar jam with some of them, and pies & muffins with more.

Also ordered a Squeezo Deluxe (food strainer & extra screens) from the Frugal Squirrels:



More expensive than others I've seen, but: all-metal body, still made in the US. Going to try canning some tomato sauce when the tomatoes come in later this summer.

Pulled some weeds in the garden. Been getting drenched with rain here lately, so things have gotten a bit too happy. Much lusher & weedier than it was back at the start of the month, below. (The "fence" is just a visual barrier, to remind visitors when backing up their vehicles -- this is right in front of the house, with driveway off to the right of the photo.)



Not a big garden, and I want a bigger one, but will have my work cut out for me to carve out more space in this very rocky, mostly forested property. I don't have any illusions about being able to feed myself on the current small plot, but it's fresh food and an enjoyable hobby.

Cukes are small, but looks like it's going to be a heavy crop "set". I dug some new potatoes last weekend; still too small, but very tasty. Should be able to have green beans starting this weekend. Peas are nearly completely done; eating some stragglers out of hand, when weeding.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I bought a Garretson try fuel conversion system for one of my generators. This unit bolts on to the end of a standard gas carburator and allows the user to burn gas, natural gas or propane. A neat little set up.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Looks great FoolYap! All that beautiful green! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Cloud9,

I wonder if that rig would work with "producer gas"? (wood gas).
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Ludi wrote:
Looks great FoolYap! All that beautiful green! Smile


Thanks. In the foreground it's mostly salad-y things. Lettuces, cabbages, carrots, basil, fennel, beets, parsley, etc. Concentrating not on high calorie this year, but on high quality homegrown substitutes for store-bought.

On the hill terrace above the stone wall in the background I've got some garlic (which is disappointingly small; I guess I needed to feed it heavier), and random herbs: oregano, sage, sorrel, thyme (doing poorly; too wet for it I think), chives, horseradish, etc. There's also some young grapes badly in need of a trellis up there, and some lingonberries.

Most of the greenery in back to the right is a grove of small wild sassafras. Been ripping it up where I don't want it; no shortage of it on the property. Keep meaning to try making some tea from the root.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The kit I bought is supposed to work with both low pressure and high pressure gases. It has a machined spacer that goes between the air cleaner and the carburator. The high presssure line is controled with a regulator that looks just like the one I have on my gas grill. That feeds into what the company calls a KN regulator. It is a low pressure regulator. I just got the kit this evening so I have not had time to study the componants. It looks to me as though the KN regulator would feed most any kind of low pressure gasious fuel. Wood gas seems logical.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Thanks patience, I bought some whole wheat flour and will give it a try. The only pancakes I've made have been Bisquick pancakes. I probably have a recipe from scratch in my cookbooks so I'll give that a try and the syrup too.
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Our older girl and her hubby are deep into developing their off grid home. He's currently working on winding a low speed alternator for a 10 ft. dia. windmill, and I made some parts for that yesterday.

Their 32 acres of mostly forest has a meadow that will convert to some garden next year, but at present, they are only growing fresh vegetable for table use. The house is super-insulated (6" styrofoam panel walls and 8" styrofoam ceiling construction panels), and takes near nothing to heat/cool. They have solar PV electric started, and more on site to be installed, using rebuilt forkift batteries for storage. We share the work and produce from our garden with them, and they have a pretty deep food storage already. They are both metalworkers with horse farming backgrounds, he has a forestry degree, and she has a degree in chemistry along with expertise in herbal medicine.

Currently, the stove and refrigerator run on LP gas. They are building a solar oven, and just started on solar window box space heaters. They have done some logging to clear areas for wind and solar paths. Fencing is under way, as they collect on traded labor with friends. Once the logging/clearing is done, a pond goes on the hillside. This adjoins a state forestry area, and other similiar homesteads, with large game populations. Today they work on the windmill and passive solar heater boxes. They are off to a good start. Gotta brag on my kids!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:48 am    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

mulching and planting Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: Today I made / bought / learnt .... (for a post oil worl Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Come on down, folks! We'll squeeze you in somehow! (taken from another thread)
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I would love to have a peak oil party at my house! Very Happy
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