Benchmark oil and gas

smileyhouston · Tar Sands Joined: Feb 26, 2008 Posts: 46 Location: Houston

I would like you to watch these few minutes and leave your thought on his comment about education and the next generation.

I'm working on outlining a program for the Aging Workforce.

steam_cannon · Expert Joined: Dec 28, 2006 Posts: 2425 Location: MA

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Regarding an article on education trends? I think the guy sounds
like he doesn't know what he's talking about. Interview some
professors of sociology or at least someone into demographics.
Interviewing oil companies regarding education doesn't make much
sense unless it's specifically regarding employment trends in the
oil and gas industries.

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smileyhouston · Tar Sands Joined: Feb 26, 2008 Posts: 46 Location: Houston

Because I plan to evaluate your input. Wanting to read what you think.
Along on what they should really be focusing on and why. Now, what I didn't tell you is that Mr. Pledger is planning to spear head some programs that solely focuses on the educational aspect of the industry.

My job is to produce programs, I'm doing this on my own to get different perspectives.

What I would like to read is your thoughts on what you think industries should do to educate the public. How they should educate the public. What they should educate the public on.

And I could of posted a link,

We are having World Energy introduce into colleges at Oklahoma, LSU, Lamar University, UT and Ohio State.

Studying the aging workforce and the lack of geologist, scientist and engineers coming into the energy business.

We are not a news media, nor a blog forum, simply a publication that is building a TV network that I'm hoping will get educated people like yourself viewing.

steam_cannon · Expert Joined: Dec 28, 2006 Posts: 2425 Location: MA

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smileyhouston wrote:

We are not a news media...simply a publication that is building a TV network...

You are posting in "Book/Media Reviews", you just stated that your
organization is the definition of a media company getting messages
out though television, and yet you think you are not media.
Give me a break... Rolling Eyes

smileyhouston wrote:

Because I plan to evaluate your input...

If this flys with other people why not, but honestly you could have
quoted the relevant portion of the transcript without posting
another one of your videos. Telling us to "watch the video and tell
you what we think of the end", is lazy and not that far off from what
you were doing before, telling people to just watch your video. It's
a fine line. And though yOu may not have heard this variation of the
old saying, "Semantics is the last refuge of a scoundrel."

Here's the big question, does it fly with other people that we will
be doing "Book/Media Reviews" for a company instead of about a
company? Because I think book and media reviews is a thread
about media not for media or posting for media companies.
I don't want to drive you away, but ya know...

Now honestly, if you can't post without posting your media videos, I
think the open forum would at least be more appropriate place for
you to post. The open forum is still viewed by members, but not by
the general public. So it would remove the uncertainty about if you
are posting videos as advertising and conflicts of interest. But hey,
if other people don't mind, post all the videos ya want...

smileyhouston wrote:

My job is to produce programs, I'm doing this on my own to get
different perspectives.

I'm not a big fan of doing other peoples homework for them. But if
you want to convince me that you really only want input, post the
relevant portion of a transcript or post somewhere your videos
aren't viewed as advertising.

smileyhouston wrote:

Along on what they should really be focusing on and why. Now,
what I didn't tell you (but I this assumed anyway) is that
Mr. Pledger is planning to spear head some programs that solely
focuses on the educational aspect of the industry.

What I would like to read is your thoughts on what you think
industries should do to educate the public. How they should
educate the public. What they should educate the public on.

They should teach them how to properly use question marks. After
that they should teach them where the "Current Energy News"
forum is since there seems to be a thread already on what you
wanted to talk about. Of course bumping that thread or even
opening a new thread might not be a bad idea if you have news on
that front. Your discussion with Mr. Pledger might be considered
news. You could have that discussion here, but I don't it really
would match "Book/Media Reviews" or the topic very well.

Perhaps if you start a thread like:
The next generation of oil engineers?
Educating for Oil Age Gap
Educating for the Age Gap
Solving the engineer supply gap

Something descriptive and relevant. The previous thread was
"U.S. Oil engineers in short supply.", perhaps you could start a thread
like "Solving the engineer supply gap"
or "How should industry solve the engineering supply gap?"

smileyhouston wrote:

simply a publication that is building a TV network that I'm hoping will
get educated people like yourself viewing.

A little something about the demographics of peakoil.com, most of
the people here don't watch TV or watch very little.

Here are a few links and threads I found searching peakoil.com
There are probably more...

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U.S. oil engineers in short supply.
http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic31945.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20514495/from/RS.2/

shortage of workforce in russia
http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic21436.html

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Their is a huge age gap in oil workers. 80% of oil professionals are
going to reach retirement age in the next 10 years. The problem is
nobody wanted to work in the oil industry in the last 20 years
because of the cyclical periods of great times and really bad times.
When times were good everybody was happy but when times got
bad many got laid off and struggled to find work. So less people
entered the industry.

joeltrout

POers in their 20s?
http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic37252-0-asc-15.html

Help wanted: Oil jobs
The oil industry is scrambling to attract young workers as 80% of its
aging workforce is headed for the door.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/13/news/companies/oilworker_shortage/

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steam_cannon · Expert Joined: Dec 28, 2006 Posts: 2425 Location: MA

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Got your PM, rule of thumb keep it in the forums if it's regarding a
thread. And seriously, try to show emotion in public. You're
supposed to be a commentator, if you're pissed off show some balls
and say it! Twisted Evil

smileyhouston wrote:

I was looking forward to reading insight and well thought out points...

Great, how about you do it without posting your company videos.
Does this violate your religion or something?

smileyhouston wrote:

Instead I get accused of advertising and being lazy.

You're posting company videos and you can't type a two paragraph
transcript to get the info you want. Most first time posters can get
the info they want, why can't you? Do you think whining is going to
help? The problems simple. You need to stop putting the floppydisk
in upside down, the problem is you. Learn the system and make it
work. Or go wherever, but you're going to keep having this same
problem until you learn how to ask a question without the company
BS. I don't have any trouble starting a thread and getting info,
what's holding you back?

smileyhouston wrote:

I came to this forum in hopes of building a relationship with its readers.

Reading your post finds me discouraged.

My goal was to see your perspective on interview, articles and projects.

All I've received is judgment.

Reading your responses on PeakOil was part of my homework, for
me at least. That I could of taken what you post, and give insight
into what matters, or I thought mattered. Learning from you.

I see now that this forum cannot give me that no input, rather
opinions and judgment of character.

Thank you for your time. I'll take my research somewhere else.

Peakoil.com is very much a debate club and you're whining about being criticized?
Let me play you a tune on the worlds smallest violin...

Two other things Smiley:

* First you can always add a user to your block list if you don't want
to listen to their posts.

* Second, I'll repeat again, you're mismanaging yourself. You could
have a fairly large influence on this site and sites related to this
one, post your videos and interact with people in the energy
industry if you made just a few simple changes to your approach.
Instead of giving up try some different things. I may not think your
videos are news, but the news editors may. Try posting
descriptions with a link of your new video there and see if they
approve. On the forums, start as many topics as you can think of,
just lay off with your videos. You could accomplish all your goals if
you'd just thicken up that skin and try a few suggestions. Rolling Eyes

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steam_cannon · Expert Joined: Dec 28, 2006 Posts: 2425 Location: MA

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steam_cannon · Expert Joined: Dec 28, 2006 Posts: 2425 Location: MA

Ferretlover · Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Benchmark oil and gas

Talk to Casey, Representative John Kline's energy aide; in a recent phone call, we discussed this problem (losing aging workers) regarding the nuclear power program.
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